BuzzCutPsycho

I thought the young people were all on anti-depressendants nowadays.

Thank you. It takes a big man to admit defeat and I'm glad you were able to finally do so.

Take your geritol.

It's typical wargaming gate keeping. They scoff at progress for the sake of scoffing. Moving goal posts and making inane anecdotal arguments to justify what they see or do as either the only way or superior way. In a way it makes them feel that their club is special and unique and them youngins just won't get it. Me personally? I read their replies and laugh at them. These people are stuck in self imposed stasis and reasonable discussion with most of them is a sisyphean task. You can see that right away when they began to knock Discord (which I hate for privacy reasons, not convenience reasons) while still espousing the greatness of forums in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Unfortunately the entire message of the OP was lost once the boomer brigade latched onto how he met with people to play CM instead of the his genuine concerns with the quality of H2H battles and match finding.

LOL.

I would genuinely be shocked to see anything other than a lobby system which admittedly is more than enough. Most players seem to play CM using WEGO which doesn't require complex micro movements so it can get away with games being direct play peer-to-peer as opposed to dedicated servers.

You cared enough to respond. And since you do care I am pleased to inform you that I don't use it. That doesn't change the fact that it is antiquated. That isn't up for debate. It's a fact. And the experience many have had where people just "disappear" and games abruptly end is one of many reasons why the system is inferior to direct play. Simple as.

Poor time management doesn't change the fact that PBEM is an antiquated and outdated system. That's all. Have fun. Buzz

I do not feel like calling it garbage is over the top given the technological standard for multiplayer games now. No amount of fanciful excuses are going to make up for the fact that PBEM is an obsolete relic of the past that is mocked by PC players in the year 2021 and a PBEM "lobby" system is not going to change that. While I personally have nothing against the addition of such a lobby since it will benefit players such as yourself I cannot help but feel that unless a direct player option is also included a bit of the mark is being missed here. I keep reading that "one turn a day" is the standard but I cannot help but notice that people are grossly overexaggerating the amount of time required to play or finish a H2H combat mission game. Most battles I play are set to "large" in Cold War and take around one and a half to two hours in turn based mode. The longest match I played was three hours set to huge in Black Sea. These are no different than going to a hobby shop on the weekend for a game of Battletech or Warhammer 40k which can take much, much longer. Additionally nearly every battle I have played in CW (A total of 70 so far) has been decided relatively early in the game on meeting engagements. I guess if you decide to fight to the last man and the last round it could potentially take you a very long time but I have more respect for my opponents as they do me to draw out a game with zero chance of victory. Do not misunderstand what I write as vitriol hatred or anything of the sort. I am a passionate fan of the entire CM franchise and have been involved since it was first released. It replaced Close Combat for me back in the day and I've been here ever since. Because I have been here ever since the stagnation of the series in the technological department pains me in more ways than just the multiplayer system. The game's multiplayer was antiquated back then and it is even more so now two decades later.

The dislike for "young people" in gaming is understandable especially if you look at the trend of modern AAA or even AA games but the wargaming community has always had an issue with gate keeping and quite frankly Combat Mission itself does not do itself any favors when it comes to attracting and growing a player base. The fact that "PBEM +++" or whatever it is called is being touted as this amazing breakthrough is comical in of itself. A true lobby system and genuine support of a proper multiplayer would do wonders in facilitating a healthy MP community albeit a niche one. This PBEM garbage was outdated back when CM was first released and it's even more outdated today. The group I play CM with (about 30 people on a Discord) all play direct connect either turn based or real time. PBEM is antiquated garbage and players interested in the series are right to mock and laugh at it being touted as a feature.

I consider most modern military "veterans" to be indistinguishable from the people "living off the government" and doing "nothing to help mankind" you are whinging about.

Pretty much sums up the thread. Observing senile boomers yelling at computers remains a timeless pleasure of mine.

Since this thread has long drifted into off topic garbage I'm going to ask you this. Are you interested in learning how to defeat Soviet forces controlled by another player or are you purely interested in single player? If you're inquiring about head to head I can share with you the knowledge I've acquired in about 64 games I've played against human opponents. If it's against the scripted AI I have nothing to offer you since it is easily exploited and not worth talking about.

You found the biggest Easter Egg of them all.

Why is that Mord? Do I liberate Dachau or Auschwitz in any of those World War 2 titles?