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In past few days they manneged to capture some buldings. And yes biggest part of AP is now under militants control.

So if will be the MoD of US you will send all USN to the black sea? Just to berry them there due to backfire raid?

Indeed. New age warfare.

Tomahawks are too slow and can be intercepted with ease even with Osa SAM. But turning back to my question - how NATO side will counter low altitude CAS? US dont have any AA for that, manpads are actualy the last chance weapon, not the main one. UA AA are old and not realy numerus.

That is realy questional statement)) As for other, Libyan AA were something like mid 70s USSR. Plus they dont have any strategic AA assets like S-300 and S-400.

Question is how many NATO planes will remain functional after this?

That is MANPAD with a very limited range. Why? Russian army have more SAMs when anyone.

I have litle question about tactics - how US plan to fight with the russian choppers and CAS planes flyng on low altitude?

Why i didnt see any proofs in this post?

BTR +1 Is he fighting as volunteer? Have he ever been in UA?

He is the politic. They are OSCE. If you dont respect them thats your problem. Militants? Thats the same BTR-80 but with different gun. 2A72 are used on some UA vehicles. So whats the problem? And yeas, RF give to the militants. Anyway that took place only after Crimean parlament said "cya" to the UA. Where? Show us some of them pls. Is he said "regular troops with orders from MoD"?

I know ukrainians personally. Thats not a joke - this is part of theyr culture.

Why it cant? You can reffer to ANY war what took place on the territory of the UA. They are not those glorius Belarus partisans and even the Russian ones. They have sayng "моя хата с краю" what means if something doesnt touch me i will not do anything to it. They are not Kurds. They will cooperate.

As history shown us ukrainians will cooperate with occupation forces.

My bad, sorry. When Crimean events were happening everyone knows what there were russian troops in center of them. Even in Russia. Title says what there is OSCE dudes were close. If they said what thats okay - thats okay. Well not all of the gear is 20 years old, but still you have no evidence what they manned by russian regulars. Russia used its right to keep about 60K (i dont remember the correct number) in Crimea. Only IF there is regulars. If they dont recive orders from MoD they are terrorists. If they do - Ukraine must declare a war to Russia. But only if there are regulars. Who knows? Still no evedences. And yes they are russians, Ethnic russains.

I can stop but only if Steve will stop call other points of view "Putin's propaganda".

What a shame, Steve. US porpaganda mashine said that? But evryone in russia know what there is actualy our troops there. Now - we dont. Who give you the right to call some thing "reality" and other "propaganda"? I didnt watch LF and i dont know anyone of my friends doing so. Our state controlled media never said what that was CIA operation. That the IS do that but IS creation is the US fault. For example counter-battary gear or UR-77 seen in use by militants. If they will wear US unform and recive official orders - that the war. If not - that the terrorism. Learn law of war. DNR and LNR asked for help from Russia.

There is none. Yeah we have some fotos of 20 years old gear in hands of militants and some upgraided tanks but thats it. Yeah russia give it to the militants just like NATO did it with FSA or Libian rebels. But there is no clear evedince of regular troops fighting there.

So you are tryng to say what there were no russian regulars?

The fun thing what there is no evedence of this raid.

Mercs from Poland. Militants says much about them during the whole airoport events. Second foto is the Ukrainian solder. I belive UA have some of them for theyr SF units.

That rifle were captured from the Cyborgs in the last airport fight. And it belived what Polish PMC are used them. http://cs623324.vk.me/v623324269/2d14/qqYxiivbGbs.jpg That foto have been made a month ago.

Если вы говорите про ядро ака движущую силу, то должны писать "core"))

And what so-called "UN" thinks about that?

Yeah sorry. But i crushed my chear when i saw you answer and my reaction was uncontrolled. Nope. Something like 70 in total with the old versions of T-64 form the "stockpiles". Thats's what i think about your position. They dont have money for that. Kharcovs plant arealmost dead all its good engeneirs are reataired are long ago coz they have no payment for they work during 2000s. UA need at least 5 year to rebuild its military industry, but they can do it only if they will have a realy huge money bag. Thats simple. I never said something like that. All i said what they didnt do it in right numbers ever for they CTO. And as Kalugin said they dont only need good stuff, they need motivated and trained professionals with at least 6 month training. Current UA consripts have only 3. The fun thing what UA president said what they catualy produse them. lol And that is true. Russia cant won all out WW2 style war against NATO and even US. US just have more cannon folder. To have more proffesioanls. Like it happend in US. In France. In UK. Thats normal for the modern world. I have many friend in Ukraine. One of them from Crimea, some from Kharov and one from Kiev. I know what they are thinking about. Some of them hate Putin but all of them hate Poroshenko due to total idiotism of his goverment.