Vet 0369
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5 hours ago, John Kettler said:
keas66,
Please tell me how much you read and from which link before questioning my sanity? I provided a ton of information in those links, and it's by no means confined to any one link. Funding, biolab locations, the provision of diplomatic protections to all US staff (for example, in Georgia), the exclusion of nationals from Level Three areas (limited to US only and must have a security clearance), arrangements with Ukrainian authorities, official statements (via open letter to Zelensky and two others) from Rada members regarding the biolabs in Ukraine, the almost 1000 fatalities associated with them and concern the bioagents in them might be targeted against Ukrainians, introduction to Georgia of known virus vector biting flies from the Philippines (!), the temporal connection between the putting the insect lab online in Tbilisi, Georgia, the outbreak of biting flies there and rapid appearance of these same insect invaders in Dagestan, Russia, all in 2014.
Showed official statements from Russia's MoD and China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs. I showed maps Bulgarian journalists had done showing where the biolabs in Ukraine were located. Provided a list of the agents allegedly found or destroyed in one biolab (L'viv) and the Ukrainian Ministry of Health purported pathogen destruction order of February 22, the day the invasion of Ukraine began. Showed multiple programs were underway in them with direct applicability to BW and that the Russians had been sounding the alarm of the BW threat from those biolabs since 2015. Pointed out the US Army had done a multi-year study specifically using insects as vectors for viruses in a testing program on humans. Previously pointed out DARPA work on using insects as carriers to deliver gene-altering viruses to plants and animals alike and the BW implications of that. Now, let me give you something else to chew on. Here is an excerpt from the below super long, article I provided a link to before. And all of this is from an article written in 2017!
https://goldenageofgaia.com/2020/04/20/pentagon-biological-weapons-program-never-ended/
US Defense Agency Tests GM Insects to Transmit GM Viruses
The Pentagon has invested at least $65 million in gene editing. The US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) has awarded 7 research teams to develop tools for genome engineering in insects, rodents and bacteria under DARPA’s Safe Gene program, using a novel CRISPR-Cas9 technology.
Under another military program – Insect Allies – GM insects are engineered to transfer modified genes to plants. The $10.3 million DARPA project includes both gene editing in insects and in the viruses that they transmit. Ecological Niche-preference Engineering is a third ongoing military program for genome engineering in insects. The Pentagon’s stated objective is to engineer GM organisms so that they can resist certain temperatures, change their habitat and food sources.
© fbo.govGenetically Engineered Humans
Besides gene editing in insects and in the viruses they transmit, the Pentagon wants to engineer humans as well.
DARPA Advanced Tools for Mammalian Genome EngineeringProject seeks to create a biological platform inside the human body, using it to deliver new genetic information, and thus altering humans at the DNA level.
DARPA wants to insert an additional 47th artificial chromosome into human cells. This chromosome will deliver new genes that will be used for engineering the human body. SynPloid Biotek LLC has been awarded two contracts under the program totaling $1.1 million (2015-2016 – $100,600 for the first phase of the research; 2015-2017 – $999,300 for work which is not specified in the federal contracts registry). The company has only two employees and no previous record on bio-research.
Top Secret Research on Synthetic Viruses
Between 2008 and 2014, the United States invested approximately $820 million in synthetic biology research, Defense being a major contributor. Much of the military projects on synthetic biology are classified, among them are a number of classified studies by the secretive JASON group of US military advisors – e.g. Emerging Viruses and Genome Editing for the Pentagon, and Synthetic Viruses for the National Counterterrorism Center.
JASON is an independent scientific advisory group that provides consulting services to the U.S. government on matters of defense, science and technology. It was established in 1960 and most of their resulting JASON reports are classified. For administrative purposes, JASON’s projects are run by the MITRE Corporation, which has contracts with the Defense Department, CIA and the FBI. Since 2014 MITRE has been awarded some $27.4 million in contracts with the DoD.
Although the JASON Reports are classified, another US Air Force study titled Biotechnology: Genetically Engineered Pathogens, sheds some light on what the secretive JASON group has researched – 5 groups of genetically engineered pathogens that can be used as bio-weapons. These are binary biological weapons (a lethal combination of two viruses), host swapping diseases (animal viruses that ‘jump’ to humans, like the Ebola virus), stealth viruses, and designer diseases.Designer diseases can be engineered to target a certain ethnic group, meaning that they can be used as ethnic bio-weapons.
Ethnic Bioweapons
Ethnic biological weapon (biogenetic weapon) is a theoretical weapon that aims to primarily harm people of specific ethnicities, or genotypes.
Although officially the research and development of ethnic bio-weapons have never been publicly confirmed, documents show that the US collects biological material from certain ethnic groups – Russians and Chinese.
The US Air Force has been specifically collecting Russian RNA and synovial tissue samples, raising fears in Moscow of a covert US ethnic bio-weapons program.
Is it going to take the written (and perhaps video) equivalent of an artillery barrage to get you and others here to wake up and see what's been going on, since when, where, how funded, doing what and how it all fits into the context of the grim history of US BW? If what I've provided, presuming you've read it doesn't convince you there is and has been a real threat from those US controlled (DOD via DTRA) biolabs in Ukraine then logically you must be, variously, unable to understand what I've provided and its implications, unable accept thoroughly unpalatable reality, deliberately choosing ignorance, attacking the messenger, etc.
Regards,
John Kettler
Looks like something from the National Inquirer. Congratulations John, you’ve earned another Ignore.
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5 hours ago, panzermartin said:
Are Russians only fighting inside vehicles stuck in highways ? I haven't seen any foot soldier action inside towns and cities. If I was playing a CM battles and was facing a myriad of very capable AT weapons I would use a heavy infantry force to counter that. Seems they have only limited special forces and conscript infantry with no clue how to fight in cities.
This! The historic purpose of armor has been to support infantry by taking out hard points or distance fire locations. Infantry protect armor from AT weapons so the armor can provide their support.
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11 hours ago, Battlefront.com said:
That would be a neat trick, which I can't do
From what I can see there are two T-72s and a BMP-2 (I think it is a 2) with infantry on the rear deck. Looks like one T-72 gets hit and survives (white stuff goes everywhere... wonder what that was?), then starts to back up with the BMP. There's a miss that hits the building off to the right, then a hit on the BMP. As the withdrawing tank is passing by it the BMP is either hit a second time or has a massive secondary explosion (probably hit, that seems too big). The other thank, meanwhile, moved forward and down off the road. It gets hit and explodes in a very dramatic way. Last bit comes after a jump cut to the footage. Surviving tank is quite a bit down the road and some wheeled vehicle (Tigr?) is retreating very fast by it. Looks like some sort of truck is cautiously advancing towards the tank.
Steve
That “white smoke” looked like WP to me. Perhaps an artillery marking round? Do we/they still use them?
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3 hours ago, dan/california said:
Brave men, but then Ukraine is not short of those!
Once, while my Reserve unit was deployed to Camp Lejune for it’s annual two week “Summer Camp,” we were in the Staff NCO club having a beer after a training day. A Navy Petty Officer in Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) came in, chugged a beer, ate the glass, and somersaulted out the door. We all attributed his behavior to brain damage from holding his breath while defusing explosives.
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5 hours ago, DesertFox said:
Fairchild refueling wing deploys Airmen, KC-135s to Germany
Interesting terminology of saying they are deploying “in theater.”
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5 hours ago, akd said:
Naughty Boyars disobeying the Good Tsar’s wise edicts:
Yeah, I fully expect all those commanders to take it in the butt for Putin, NOT.
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4 hours ago, The_Capt said:
but the heavy lifting is being done by small missile teams and good old infantry dug and slugging it out.
This! There is ALWAYS in-fighting in the U.S. Department of Defense for increased funding. The Air Force tried, and almost succeeded in getting the Navy’s aircraft carriers scrapped in favor of more nuclear bombers after WWII. The thing that saved the carriers was N. Korea invading S. Korea. Carrier borne air power convinced Congress that scrapping them was a bad idea. The U.S. Army tried for years to separate the USMC from the Navy, and incorporate it into the Army in order to get it’s funding. They said that WWII showed the Army was just as capable of making amphibious landings as the Marines, and that was true.
Bottom line is that no matter what high-tech gear or nukes you use, it will always fall to the Grunt to go in and dig out the enemy, even if it means using sticks and rocks.
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9 minutes ago, sburke said:
Korean Air said it canceled flights to Moscow because it can't refuel its planes there (msn.com)
"We were informed by a Russia-based refueling service provider this afternoon that we can no longer refuel our planes at the airport in Moscow," a Korean Air spokesperson told Reuters.
seems confirmed
Why are KAL still flying into Moscow? I thought most were boycotting. Is there a “World Champion Gaming Tournament going on there?
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13 minutes ago, BamaMatt said:
Arleigh Burkes burn diesel fuel marine, or at least did in the 90s.
I’m not a petrorefinement engineer, but I expect the refinement level isn’tfar from that of JP.
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4 minutes ago, danfrodo said:
This aviation fuel debacle is certainly fun. What if the world's businesses were actually able to play a big role in bringing down Putin, just by simply walking away for a little while. Fascinating to see what sanctions and shutdowns can do to Putin's power.
Yeah, shut down the password protected system software used to refine the petroleum, and you can cut the entire country off from fuel; power plants, trains, buses, military, heating oil, etc.
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Just now, Vet 0369 said:
All the gas turbines, aviation, industrial, marine, etc., that I know of, run on JP-4 or JP-5 (kerosene or paraffin in Europe) or natural gas. The old Soviet reciprocating vehicles such tended to burn a fuel that was only one or two refinement stages above tar.
Err, such as tanks,
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10 minutes ago, Cobetco said:
do t80s burn aviation fuel or is it some other grade powering those turbines?
All the gas turbines, aviation, industrial, marine, etc., that I know of, run on JP-4 or JP-5 (kerosene or paraffin in Europe) or natural gas. The old Soviet reciprocating vehicles such tended to burn a fuel that was only one or two refinement stages above tar.
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26 minutes ago, Battlefront.com said:
Anybody know what Russia's 100% domestic aviation fuel production capacity is? The report that Moscow's airport ran out of fuel got me wondering if there might be a problem with Russia's supply chain now that Shell, BP, and basically the rest of the world isn't interested in fueling their planes to kill Ukrainian children. One thing that can cut through corporate profit motivations is being tagged as a child killer.
Steve
I would ask if anyone knows how many refineries Russia has. Sure, they are a major oil exporter, but how much do they actually refine for internal use?
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1 hour ago, akd said:
Ukraine is already operating Su-27s and MiG-29s. Russia operates neither over Ukraine. Technically this could be even better because the Polish MiG-29s should have IFF systems that can interface with Stinger system.
Makes sense. Thank you. I didn’t know that stingers are equipped with IFF.
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2 hours ago, sburke said:
I am hoping that this is something that comes out of this war. Corruption happens when finances are not transparent and banking regulations are weak. EU membership for Ukraine has not been held up by any fear of Russia, but by corruption in Ukraine. The unity Ukrainians have found and the willingness to sacrifice for their nation needs to be harnessed post conflict. It should become a national effort and a national security concern to resolve this regardless of EU membership or not. And this goes not only for Ukraine but for all. Deutsche Bank has a long history of managing Russian funny money that has to stop. There are states in the US becoming versions of the Cayman Islands. That has to stop. London and US real estate as havens for oligarch money - has to stop. Want to make it difficult for authoritarian leaders - stop the cash flow that enables them or at a minimum make it visible. This is supposedly the information age.
I honestly doubt that the corruption will ever be stopped. I watched a show last night on a cable History channel that detailed how an Alabama oil tycoon, named Davis, who was the largest donor to FDR’s second term campaign, and had access to sit with FDR in the White House, initially tried, at Goering’s request, to get FDR to keep the U.S. out of the war so he could keep shipping oil to Germany. When that failed, Goering sent him either 2 million or 20 million dollars to throw the election of FDR’s third term. Davis was joined by John L. Lewis, the founder and leader of the CIO labor union. They even went so far as to bribe about 46 delegates to the Electoral College to cast their votes for the Republican Wilky (sp?). It failed, and FDR was re-elected for his third term. The entire motivation was profit.
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3 hours ago, The Steppenwulf said:
Any aircraft supplied by Nato countries will need all its ID removed before being used by UKR pilots in combat. There 's also the question of what Nato information/communication encryption systems might be fitted in those aircraft that must not fall into the hands of the Russians. I'd suggest that's they have gone to Germany for these checks and modifications first.
The Ukrainians have a host of airbases and non military airfields in the west of the country outside the zone that Russian fighter bombers seem to be operating within. As we know UKR AA systems have been effective in curtailing their areas of operation. What condition those airfield are in though, is a different question but I've not seen any evidence that indicates that all the western airbases were attacked by Kaliber missiles and are now inoperable, unlike those in central Ukraine.
Personally I think 2 squadrons of Mig 29s will seal the Russians fate in this conflict. They have exposed supply columns and artillery batteries as we know. Low hit and run aircraft strafes on these exposed forces, under cover of an umbrella of stingers to protect them from Russia's counter air-to -air, and the stuttering Russian war machine could become a rout. Unless that is of course, Putin wants to bring other assets into the fight...I can see some potential tripping points with the MiG-29s being used as ground attack though. How does a Ukraine with a stinger determine that the MiG-29 is not a Russian? Also, in the fighter role, a radar warning receiver will show that the “threat”is an airborne MiG-29. Sure, IFF will show it as a friendly, mistakes are bound to happen in the fog of war.
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3 hours ago, The_Capt said:
Not if you fly them from Polish airfields, quietly. This will no doubt get Russia all hot and bothered but 1) Article 5 and 2) Russians have been basing in Belarus so the seal is broken.
As to their utility, well that depends on Russian air control, which has universally been...uneven. If the Russians cannot establish air superiority then those MiGs start making a lot more sense.
Failing that you base them as far west as you can and use a lot of hasty runways and the like, tricky but doable with enough support and that is assuming Russian ISR can even figure out what airfield to hit, it has not been very good either as far as we can tell.
If I’m not mistaken, all Soviet aircraft were designed as “rough field” capable, even the Ukraine AN-225, the largest airplane in the world, that the Russians have destroyed in it’s hanger outside Kyiv.
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3 hours ago, Battlefront.com said:
I vote for giving them to the Duchy of Grand Fenwick. Would complement their Q Bomb quite nicely.
Steve
“Squeak,” err “ROAR!”
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14 hours ago, sburke said:
agree. I think Ukraine looks at the last 8 years and figures - no more. They are smelling blood. They don't have to defeat the entire 180,000 men. They just have to break their will and I think they are doing a damn good job of it. There will come a point where fragging may become a Russian term if their officers aren't paying attention.
Probably won’t become a “term,” but I worked with a Soviet Immigrant in the 1990s who was a T-34 driver. He told me that they had a sadistic tank commander, who would kick him in the head to indicate a change of direction instead of tapping. One night while the commander had gotten drunk and passed out in a hut, they backed the tank up against the hut and filled it with carbon monoxide. The crew later pulled the tank away and reported the commander had died in his sleep.
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13 hours ago, danfrodo said:
Hey Vet0369, sorry if that came across as testy. Uncalled for. I should not have watched update on the baseball lockout then commented on anything -- high class problem compared to Ukraine, I know.
Hey Dan, absolutely no problem! I was wrong to assume that you, like probably 95% of the U.S. population don’t know the history of the region. I, like most males my age, am a military veteran, and grew up in the “50s” doing “duck and cover” drills in school at least once a week, so that probably taints my thought processes. I believe that knowing the history of a region helps to prevent “misunderstandings” and “miscalculations.” That whole region is a quagmire of “they did this to us 500 years ago, so our rage is justified.” My Brother-in-law is first generation U.S. citizen of Lithuanian parents. His, and my sisters last name is Zilinsky. If you did a DNA test of the people in Poland, Ukraine, Russia, Lithuania, and the Baltic States, you would probably find that they would have common DNA.
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6 minutes ago, Erwin said:
In 1795, Poland's territory was completely partitioned among the Kingdom of Prussia, the Russian Empire, and Austria. Poland regained its independence as the Second Polish Republic in 1918 after World War I, but lost it in World War II through occupation by Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.
Yes, thank you for this. This is why I specifically said “has almost always been Poland!”
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2 hours ago, DesertFox said:
LOL! It is a little bit more complicated...
Excellent link! It explains the quagmire of histories very well. Here’s one for ya.
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1 hour ago, danfrodo said:
Kiev is historical heart of Russia? So by that reasoning then Zelensky should be president of Russia, and Putin the provincial governor.
Dan, please read up on the history of the region. TL:DR, Kiev was settled by a Swedish tribe that were “asked” by the locals to “save” them from the Slavic rulers. The town eventually became the Principality of Kiev Rus (the name of the Swedish tribe was the Rus) which in time included Moscow. So, in fact, Kiev is the ”Mother” of Russia since Russia, was the name the country took from it’s “Mother.” Here’s a suggestion, Google “History of Ukraine,” and you’ll see how convoluted the truth is for the entire region. Everyone around that region, Poland, Latvia, Estonia, can make the same claim to rule Ukraine as they all did, except not under the same names we know them as today, except Poland has almost always been Poland.
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4 hours ago, Battlefront.com said:
Another tank with a red band on its barrel. I've seen this a couple of times now and also a red stripe on some sort of vehicle (I forget what it was). Curious.
Steve
Perhaps to indicate “Russian tank.” Similar to the armbands and leg bands. Ukraine uses yellow.
How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?
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I think the terms are more like “Tributaries” and “Fiefdoms” than “Satellites” and “Clients.”