Jump to content
Battlefront is now Slitherine ×

Vet 0369

Members
  • Posts

    1,388
  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    2

Posts posted by Vet 0369

  1. 2 hours ago, c3k said:

    "Traitor" is a fraught word when applying it to a military officer in time of war.

    Being dismissed is an odd punishment: I'd think execution would be in the cards...

    Of course, in a country like Ukraine, these men and their families are now going to have to flee. Is that really what Zelensky wants?

    Again...odd to just dismiss.

    I don’t know what the UKR Constitution says about crimes and trials, etc., but i*m sure that there would have to be trials, sentencing, appeals, etc. Better to “out” them, maybe the population will take care of it in their own way, it appears that haven’t been in a position of affecting the war since the beginning.

    Sorry, posted before reading Haiduk’s info abou the fleeing before the war started.

  2. 7 hours ago, Bulletpoint said:

    Isn't the fuze only activated when the shell is fired out of the mortar?

    On U.S. mortar rounds, at least the 60mm, there is a bore-riding pin that’s spring loaded to eject (about 30 meters IIRC) after the round leaves the tube to arm the fuse. I’m sure they can be removed with a little work. I know from experience of dropping an illum down the tube and having it start to tick in the tube, that they don’t always work as a safety. I’ve also had the pins bounce off my helmet as they exited the tube that the fuse can arm before the design distance.

  3. 12 hours ago, Battlefront.com said:

    Not much confirmation of what happened yet, but this source says it was a Ukrainian helicopter.  That could very well be because of the height the missiles were fired from.  And ground based rockets wouldn't have flat trajectories:

    https://www.teletrader.com/russian-fuel-storage-unit-hit-in-ukraine-missile-attack-gov/news/details/57607309?ts=1648789030560

    This will be very interesting to see how it plays out.  Ukraine must be feeling pretty confident to conduct airstrikes pretty deep into Russian airspace.

    Steve

    One can probably compare it to the 1942 strike on Tokyo. While it might have done some appreciable damage, the main purpose might have been to force the Russians to redeploy air defense units to protect those vital assets. Either way, it’s a win for Ukraine.

  4. 7 hours ago, Commanderski said:

    Notice how most of them abandon their vehicles and run as far away as possible. Only the guys in the first vehicle seem to run to check on the one that got blown up.

    Of course with the amount of casualties they've been sustaining you can't blame them for running like the wind.

    The ones that ran to check on the others are the true leaders.

  5. On 3/28/2022 at 8:03 AM, BeondTheGrave said:

    Depending on the phrasing here this is a funny compromise. Neutrality secured by other nations that can stand up to Russia? So....... The United States?

    I found the best move of the proposal from Ukraine to be in the in the suggested make up of the countries that would agree to defend Ukraine from “Foreign aggression” would include “China!” Talk about putting China between a rock and a hard place!

  6. 17 hours ago, dan/california said:

    If you made me king for a day I would put a Marine division on Taiwan, permanently.

    Has anyone been factoring in the feelings and attitudes of the indigenous Formosians? Perhaps the anger and resentment from Chang Kai Shek “appropriating their island has diminished since they were invaded and displaced by the Nationalists, but they definitely weren’t happy about it at the time. I have also read that the Formosans are still being treated as second class citizens. I might be hand probably are) wrong about that, but it is something to consider.

  7. 19 hours ago, DesertFox said:

    A wasted generation. So young...

     

     

    All males in the U.S. are required to register for Selective Service Within a specific time of their 18th birthday. A man or woman can enlist in the armed forces at 17-years old if they have signed permission of their parents or legal guardian. Audie Murphy, one of America’s most decorated soldiers of WWII enlisted in the U.S. Army at 15 or 16 by forging the permission. Eighteen and nineteen-year olds tend to feel they’re invulnerable, one of the reasons for being able to enlist at that age.

  8. 9 hours ago, Elmar Bijlsma said:

    Sometimes Twitter is a cesspool. Sometimes it is not.

    "I am the very model of a Russian Major General

    My standing in the battlefield is growing quite untenable

    My forces, though equipped and given orders unequivocal

    Did not expect the fight to be remotely this reciprocal

     

    I used to have a tank brigade but now I have lost several

    My fresh assaults are faltering with battleplans extemporal

    I can't recover vehicles but farmers in a tractor can

    It's all becoming rather reminiscent of Afghanistan

     

    My ordnance is the best but only half my missiles make it there

    I would have thought by now that we would be controllers of the air

    But at the rate the snipers work my time here is ephemeral

    I am the very model of a Russian Major General"

     

    Ah, spin-off from “The Pirates of Penzance!”

  9. 14 hours ago, Maciej Zwolinski said:

    This is reportedly for the 4th Tank Division - Kantemirovskaya. I suppose for non-elite units it would be worse still.

    So Putin’s vaunted “maneuvers” before the invasion might have been nothing more than an attempt to shake out the bad equipment from the bad stuff.

  10. On 3/25/2022 at 7:08 PM, sburke said:

    so what you are saying is we are effectively making war obsolete?  Instead of hitting an SLOC let's just decapitate the leadership.  Facial recognition, bug size UAV... zap

    Nope, WE (the US) can’t do that. That would be classified as an assassination of a foreign leader. President Ford issued an Executive Order to prohibit that (primarily aimed at the out of control CIA at that time) and every U.S. President has signed it since. I haven’t read it, but it has to be published in the Federal Register, and anyone can access to text through NARA.gov or Federalregister.gov.

    Of course, the sitting President can always remind the E.O., but I don’t anticipate that happening.

  11. 20 hours ago, Holman said:

    As an alternate example, imagine if someone came to their final conclusions about the value of armor by studying the WW2 Pacific theater and ignoring the European theater.

    Agree! I don’t know if U.S. Army Landing forces used their armor the same way as the USMC did, but suspect that they did. USMC armor was used basically as support for the Grunts. If a Marine unit came up against a strong point that would be difficult for them to take, cave, bunker, etc., they would call in the tanks (light 37mm M5s) or M4s to reduce the strong points with HE or flame. There were very few tank to tank battles, primarily because the Japanese tanks were not very good. Unfortunately, later armor use and tactics were developed on European use because the Army could get more funds that way. Then, they believed their own propaganda.

    I’m pretty sure the USMC’s use of tanks during WWII formed a major part of its decision to divest of it’s armor and heavy artillery. They just don’t fit the USMC mission to “Seize and secure advanced naval bases.” In my humble opinion, the USMC has been used incorrectly since the Korean Conflict, primarily because they have been under an Army Overall Commander in every conflict since WWII.

  12. 8 hours ago, Battlefront.com said:

    It wouldn't have done all that much better in the end, I agree, but I do think a US force would be able to take over all of eastern Ukraine within a month with another week or maybe two to establish air supremacy and degrade various other defensive capabilities.

    If that had happened, maybe the Russian's presumption of surrender would have happened without the need to do urban warfare?  Or maybe certain cities would surrender?

    The problem with this analogy is that the will to fight Russians is rooted in the knowledge of what a Russian occupation would be like and what the long term aims of Russia are.  The US concept of nation building, though extremely flawed and riddled with hypocrisy, isn't the same sort of threat.  So it's really not a comparable situation.

    I'm glad you brought this up. 

    There's been all kinds of things throughout the history of warfare that people of the day said would never change.  Anybody see much evidence that the stunning successes of the long bow or pike still being around these days?  How about trebuchets or catapults?  Yes, there some analogs to these things on the battlefield today, but the weapons themselves and the tactics that went with them are GONE. 

    This is my primary point about the MBT.  The thing that makes the MBT important is the role it fills on the battlefield.  If something else can fulfill the same role in a way that is overall viewed as "better" then that's the direction militaries will take.  The sling changed to bow changed to primitive firearms changed to rifled firearms changed to... well, you get my drift that the ability to project harm from a single person to someone else has remained over thousands of years, but the means of achieving it changes quite regularly.  Why should super expensive, difficult to field, awful to support, and yet highly vulnerable to vastly cheaper counter weapons stick around forever?

    Steve

    Well, when the Commandant of the Marine Corps and his staff decided to decommission Marine Armor and long-range artillery, they commissioned a new infantry battalion. My take on that is they feel a Marine Infantry Battalion is equivalent to their previous armor and big guns.

    Can’t say I disagree😂

  13. On 3/24/2022 at 12:28 PM, db_zero said:

    Korea has some armor, but much of the country is not suited for armor.

    Old and dangerous thinking. In 1950/1951, the U.S. positioned only light and medium tanks in South Korea because the “Omnipotent” brass insisted that it wasn’t tank friendly terrain. When North Korea  attacked, the attack was spearheaded by T-34s, which were considered medium to heavy armor. They weren’t stopped until the U.S. “heavy” artillery behind the Pusan perimeter. We wouldn’t give any heavy artillery to Syngman Rhee because we were afraid he’d start a war with them.

  14. 1 hour ago, akd said:

    Chechens and not Chechens in Mariupol (presumably DPR “regulars” based on reasonable uniform and somewhat older guns).

     

    Ahaaaa, the “old clown car” deception where they come out of a building, walk a bit, make a left through the building and enter back into the the back door of the building they’re exiting from.

     Geo. Washington did that when he deceived the Redcoats in Boston by marching the same militia around and having them change their waistcoats when they were out of sight so the Redcoats thought they were different militias (June, 1775).

  15. 2 hours ago, Fenris said:

    Someone was asking about under barrel grenade launchers somewhere in the thread... Well here's some being used to do something

    Yes, they’re “being used for something.” I don’t know what they’re being used for though. My analysis  from having used the M203 under-barrel and M79 (blooper) grenade launchers in the Marines is that this was a pretend display. First, what were the firing at? They didn’t use any sights, and fired using the knee or thigh instead of the shoulder, so they weren’t aiming at anything. And yes, I know they can be accurately used without the sights, but only by a very experienced Grenadier who has practiced it a lot, not by the average infantryman either Marine or soldier. Even the discharge didn’t sound right. It sounded more like a rifle discharge than the “bloop” of a grenade launcher. Maybe I’ve been away from them for too long, but it smells of BS to me.

    NOTE: I’m using an iPad, so that could be the issue with the sounds, and I didn’t see a rifle cartridge ejected, so I could be wrong.

×
×
  • Create New...