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  1. On 4/9/2024 at 11:37 AM, photon said:

    You could maybe talk me into the main gun being useful for shore bombardment, but good gravy - if you're firing at hostile vessels, how many things have gone badly wrong by that point? I'm really curious when was the last time a ship fired its main gun at another ship in anger?

    Even though I’m not Navy, if I remember correctly, on a modern Navy ship, the missiles are used against other ships and air threats while the “main gun” is usually radar controlled and rapid fire to be used against small, fast, agile boats (can you say Iranian gunboats). I don’t believe we use “shore bombardments” any more. We use air strikes, which are more accurate. Forget about all the movies showing shore bombardments from 70 to 90 years ago.

  2. On 4/8/2024 at 4:13 PM, Beleg85 said:

    This little CSS Merrimack will only need to find its USS Monitor now...

    Sorry my friend, but it was the CSS Virginia that fought the USS Monitor. It can be very confusing to those who haven’t studied the American Civil War (including most Americans) but it is very understandable because of how the battle has been recounted since the day it occurred.  The Merrimack was a U.S. Navy ship that was burned by the Confederacy at the start of the war. It burned to the waterline. The Confederates raised the hull of the ship, and rebuilt it from the hull up. They then Commissioned the ship the “CSS Virginia.” To this day, I hear U.S. Historians refer to “the battle between the Monitor and the Merrimack,” and they are wrong. 
     

    your comparison was dead on though!

  3. 1 hour ago, LongLeftFlank said:

    ...sorry Vet, I named the wrong guy and can't edit for some reason. No intent to call you out, and you are quite right on free speech, although it's also important to stay OT (I am as guilty as others of straying).

    You’re absolutely correct LLF! I usually try to ignore such comments, especially when I don’t know whether the poster is “Foreign or DOMESTIC.” Intolerance by anyone simply makes my blood boil as I consider them to be the cause of most of the world’s problems.

     I apologize.

  4. On 4/1/2024 at 12:01 PM, riptides said:

    So sad that person is an elected official.

    Even worse....that that sort of drivel can be spouted and not a thing can be done about it.

     

    What do you mean “Even worse …about it?” The day that someone, anyone, “can do something about it” is the day this country ceases to exist as a Republic guided by our Constitution! It is extremely pitiful when someone complains that an opposite point of view, no matter how distasteful it is to another should be forbidden. The oath I swore for over 60 years both in the military and in Federal Government service “To protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, both foreign AND DOMESTIC….” Is deeply ingrained in me. The First Amendment protections of free speech and freedom of association doesn’t apply to just you alone, and I will fight to the death to preserve YOUR right to speech and association even when I think you’re a left-wing nut case! Will you guarantee the same to me and others? It sure doesn’t look it from your statement.

     

     

  5. On 3/30/2024 at 4:17 PM, photon said:

    Have you read the thread from day 1? The amount of open source information here - from all imaginable perspectives - is enormous. Historians will be able to make much more sense of this war than any in history. Would that we had this sort of information for the ancient world! Or the Battle of Midway!

    Ummmm, do you know that the U.S.Navy had already broken the Japanese Imperial Navy’s code previously and knew what the Imperial Navy’s operational plan was? The only thing the USN didn’t know was the actual target. They suspected Midway, but didn’t know, only that was coded as KT or something, so they had Midway send a message in the clear that their water processing plant was down. They waited, and intercepted an IN transmission saying that KT was running out of water. That sealed the intelligence, and the rest is history! Kinda similar to the U.S. warning Ukraine of the upcoming attack and additionally letting Putin know that we knew.

  6. 8 hours ago, Harmon Rabb said:

    Meanwhile in clown news, brought to you by our good friend David D aka Secret Squirrel.

    I sense a new foreign policy doctrine in the making, lets ignore countries MTG can't find on a map.

    MTG couldn’t find her way to her office if she didn’t have a driver!

  7. On 3/28/2024 at 5:43 PM, Haiduk said:

    I've read that a pilot, who ejects, gets at least light or even medium spinal trauma and must pass rehabilitation during 3-6 months. I don't know how this information is reliable. 

    My knowledge is anecdotal from when I was in an F-4 B Squadron in the Fleet Marine Force, Western Pacific (WESTPAC) in 1970 and 1971. Our pilots had a “club” called the Caterpillar Club. The only way one could become a member was to eject from an aircraft. Every pilot I knew, who was a member, had back issues.

  8. On 3/28/2024 at 5:01 PM, Battlefront.com said:

    You missed the point of my post and went way off track into deep, dark, shark infested waters.  I'll try to pull you back into the boat :)

    My point was that terrorist acts are committed with a specific reaction in mind.  The purpose of the attack, therefore, is to get the desired response.  What we don't know about ISIS-K is what they wanted the Russian government to do.  For example, massive security sweeps and detentions, 24/7 anti-Islamic tirades on Russian TV, widespread vigilante actions, etc.  If that is what they wanted, it doesn't look like they're going to get it.  Compare to Hamas' attacks which were met with exactly the response Hamas was looking for.

    Steve

    Accepted.

  9. On 3/27/2024 at 11:10 AM, Battlefront.com said:

     

    Think of Gaza.  Hamas attacked Israel with the obvious probability that the there would be an overwhelming and disproportionate military response.  As Hamas is a nihilistic cult, this is the sort of thing they likely wanted because it would (in their minds) get more Palestinians to join their cause.  But what if Israel instead said "you know what, we're not going to do that.  Instead, we're going to sit down and honestly try to figure out a better way to live together".  For sure this is not what Hamas would want and if Israel had done that then they'd probably immediately launch another attack.  Fortunately for Hamas and Iran, and unfortunately for everybody else, Israel did exactly what was expected of them.

     

    Well, I don’t know about this. Perhaps the fact that 80 - 90 years ago, more than 6 million of your people were exterminated simply because the were Jews, and for the most part, didn’t resist? Before WW II, Jews and Arabs in Palestine lived and worked together quite peacefully until the “Grand Mufta” began agitating to eliminate the Jews in Palestine. And yes, the British and the UN creating the State of Israel out a sense of guilt for not doing more to stop the extermination of Jews before the war started. Perhaps Israel has decided “never again will we go down without a fight.”

    The troubles in Palestine are a family fight.The Jews and Palestinians are all descended from the Canaanites, just some who chose Islam when the Arabs conquered The area, and others who retained Judaism.

  10. 22 hours ago, Haiduk said:

    Several days ago Russian media reported about strange incident - fire with victims on the board of trawler "Capitan Lobanov". As became knowingly the vessel was mistakingly hit by the missile during Baltic Fleet practice shooting. As result of incident three sailors were killed, four wounded. 

    Interesting, that this trawler already had "experience" of sinking, but this happened in the port and it was raised up and repaired. The fate. 

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    Wow! I guess we can safely say that Russia is Ukraines best asset for taking out Russian ships, vehicles, aircraft, etc. with the Black Sea Fleet and AD really jacking up the numbers of “kills!”

  11. On 3/16/2024 at 7:09 PM, Baneman said:

    Although they then have to admit/prove that it's Ukrainian and not a "smoking accident".

    Surely nets will simply drive the USV's to have a terminal underwater phase ?

    The classic is the Japanese Midway wargames where the Opposing force hid their carriers nearby ( IIRC it was even almost exactly where irl the American carriers were positioned ) and thrashed the attacking force.

    That was deemed impossible, the opfor guys were chastised and it was replayed for the Japanese "win".
    And then in reality ... 🤪

    As I implied before, it was another case of conformational bias. The Japanese Command considered everyone who was not them to be inferior and didn’t believe that the “Gaijin” or barbarians, could possibly outsmart the superior intellect of the Imperial High Command. Unfortunately, virtually ALL of the nations involved in war think exactly the same thing. It is amazing that after millenniums of warfare, Military Commanders continue to make the mistake of underestimating their opponent.

    And that same racism continues to this day by and of virtually every culture in the world.

    Also, the fact that the Imperial Navy Codes were broken much earlier and allowed the USN to spoof the Japanese Imperial Navy to inadvertently reveal the target was Midway, and the disposition of their forces. All because of the High Command believing that the code was unbreakable. I don’t know how “accurate” it was, but a best friend of my Father’s, who was Navy radio communications in the Pacific during the war, told me that the code was based on a dial telephone key dial (not necessarily a dial in English, but one in Japanese Kanji).

  12. 1 hour ago, Battlefront.com said:

    It is interesting to contemplate a situation similar to the left bank of the Dnepr where Russia can't dislodge a bridgehead into its lines (in this case prewar border).  With the last batch of incursions I was sure that the free-Russian fighters would eventually withdraw and they did.  But this time?  Hmmm... I don't know, maybe they are planning on staying.  Even a symbolic occupation of undisputed Russian territory is a pretty significant development.

    Steve

     

    1 hour ago, Battlefront.com said:

    It is interesting to contemplate a situation similar to the left bank of the Dnepr where Russia can't dislodge a bridgehead into its lines (in this case prewar border).  With the last batch of incursions I was sure that the free-Russian fighters would eventually withdraw and they did.  But this time?  Hmmm... I don't know, maybe they are planning on staying.  Even a symbolic occupation of undisputed Russian territory is a pretty significant development.

    Steve

    Hey, here’s a thought, maybe Belgorod  can hold an election and vote to become part of Ukrain!

  13. 4 hours ago, chrisl said:

    the funny thing is that they refloated the fleet (because he destroyed it on the first day of a two week exercise) and he did it again. Then they just kept changing rules until they validated that they could defend themselves from conventional attacks that they were designed for and pretended attackers would do what they were asked.  Or something like that.

    Fixed targets like the kerch bridge are somewhat easier to defend against drones. Basically a lot of nets.  Torpedo nets to several meters deep and up a few meters above the surface for the speedboat drones, birdblock/deer net for the aerial drones (probably so much plastic it will consume a month of russian oil) and radars/missiles for ships and planes. Like a huge aviary.  Ships basically have to be turned into minesweepers/fishing trawlers with nets hanging from bow mounted cranes to get the same kind of net coverage.  On the positive side, they can probably feed the crew from all the sea life they sweep up in the nets.

    I used to hate war games where there were “rules” on what we could or couldn’t do. History is full of events wher an opponent didn’t “play by the rules” and the other got smeared because they didn’t think the “inferior” opponent was smart enough to be innovative enough to beat the crap out of them.

    i’ve never understood the concept unless it was structured specifically to determine is something was or was not possible, and then to determine the best possible defense against it. One doesn’t do that by designing a training operation and putting rules in place to ensure one gets the results one wants. If one is trying to train some one to “think on their feet,” one doesn’t do that by saying “Oh, but you can’t do this or that. This is one of the reasons one should play CM missions with as many different opponents as possible. No one thinks or sees the the same way. IF EVERYONE’S THINKING THE SAME THING, SOMEONE’S NOT THINKING!

     

  14. On 3/14/2024 at 3:16 AM, Carolus said:

    Yeah, it seems strange. If what he says is true, then Ukraine leadership should reassess their targeting.

     

    Just a thought, but can any one say, with any certaincy that some of the European aid ISN’T predicated on Ukraine NOT hitting those targets?

  15. On 3/13/2024 at 12:02 AM, Kinophile said:

    Not sure of the timeline. It's much lower there so is it possible the engine burned through its support and fell? Puts this vid after the seen ones where its higher with flames. Engine matches. 

    Still, four engines down to 3 and it pancakes? Can't  even level off? 

    Pilot might have already retarded the throttles and power control levers for landing, or pilot or copilot might have panicked and thrown the fuel-cutoffs to all engines.

  16. On 3/12/2024 at 11:15 PM, Kinophile said:

    Il-76 Engine fell off, as cause? 

     

    Probably por, shoddy, or lack of maintenance. Virtually all large turbine engines on commercial and military engines are secured with three large bolts, a thrust bolt just aft of the intake (the largest) and two sway bolts on either side of the exhaust module to prevent it from swaying fron side to side. Amazing eh!

  17. 47 minutes ago, Astrophel said:

    Pope Francis is 87.  Surely there should be a retirement age for people claiming to be world leaders.

    The Pope is NOT a World leader in the sense of a Government. He is a “World Leader”only in the fact that he is the leader of all the Roman Catholic Christens. He is the head of a religious organization. I applaud his adherence to his religious beliefs of peace and non violence. Much better than the Pope during WWII who might not have been directly involved in deporting Jews to Germany, and SS and other criminals using the Vatican to flee, but he certainty didn’t work to thwart them either.

  18. 12 hours ago, FancyCat said:

    Broken clock my ***, the Republican speaker of the House is holding up Ukraine aid, including that essential rearmament funding. Despite the majority of his party being for it, majority of the country for it.

    Here we go again! Some folks just can’t seem to avoid getting sucked into the political discussion quagmire.

  19. On 3/9/2024 at 5:30 AM, Kraft said:

    @Battlefront.com I think this is the highest quality upload of your favorite river crossing, sadly quite short and not while they attempted it, the carnage must've surpassed what any movie could ever portait.

     

    Wasn’t this attempted crossing like a year or two ago? This old brain vaguely remembers the same pictures, of course not of the same quality. Am I wrong? If I am, it’s time to retire. ….Wait a minute, I’m already retired for more than seven years!

  20. 16 hours ago, Pete Wenman said:

    Don't think this has been posted earlier but the Army trying some new tech here.

    Airborne soldiers do some smart shooting with new sight that helps smash drones. 

    https://www.forces.net/services/army/airborne-soldiers-do-some-smart-shooting-new-sight-helps-smash-drones?fbclid=IwAR0TWthFemVVlX_5RRp79SZg4GiWN8JOPy84i4znNrwF7E1cRtwvIsFwyi4

     

     

    verrrrrry Interrresting! The sight looks like a very useful piece of kit. Really brilliant call to have soldiers who don’t usually use firearms such as medics and drivers as opposed to infantry who are usually very used to using the rifles. Much more accurate data on whether it acrypually increases a rate of hits.

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