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Please forgive me in advance for my extreme lack of knowledge on what to me seems to be and inordinate amount of time crank out these CM games. Steve mentioned 10 years ago that it took to complete CMBN, Yeah, that's right. I retired 13 years ago, and I was playing it before then. The business model involved in the development and all the computer work required and all the research that goes into these titles to me seems somewhat staggering. I was in Law Enforcement for almost thirty years, and I spent a lot of time investigating traffic accidents and other criminal activity. While I am in no way making a comparison to my prior work than what the Battlefront folks are doing is to say this. The dedication and hard work that is put into these "games" that we all love so much, certainly for me and I'm sure for everyone else out there in "Battlefront" land is greatly appreciated. Whatever Steve and his coworkers decide to work on is fine with me. I own every title put out. I will conclude my remarks with this. I am 63 years old, and I hope to the Lord above I am around to see and "play" the next full installment of whatever it might be.

So I have guessed that it probably takes them around two to three years to make a new game or module. Game development is normally measured in years, not months, so two to three years is most definitely not an inordinate amount of time. If it took them five years, that would be pretty concerning. If it took them ten+ years, then we'd be looking at Duke Nukem levels of procrastination. But two to three years is pretty bog standard.
As to the research. You know how difficult criminal investigation is. I don't. But I suspect that historical research is probably harder. I assume that you run into a lot of the same difficulties in criminal investigation that can cause so much trouble in historical research (unreliable witnesses, contradictory sources, etc...). But think about how difficult criminal investigation was for you, and now imagine that most of your witnesses have died of old age, and most of your evidence has been degraded or destroyed by the ravages of time. I'm impressed that Battlefront is able to conduct such incredibly detailed research with time to spare to finish full games and modules at what is honestly a pretty reasonable pace.

Please forgive me in advance for my extreme lack of knowledge on what to me seems to be and inordinate amount of time crank out these CM games. Steve mentioned 10 years ago that it took to complete CMBN, Yeah, that's right. I retired 13 years ago, and I was playing it before then. The business model involved in the development and all the computer work required and all the research that goes into these titles to me seems somewhat staggering. I was in Law Enforcement for almost thirty years, and I spent a lot of time investigating traffic accidents and other criminal activity. While I am in no way making a comparison to my prior work than what the Battlefront folks are doing is to say this. The dedication and hard work that is put into these "games" that we all love so much, certainly for me and I'm sure for everyone else out there in "Battlefront" land is greatly appreciated. Whatever Steve and his coworkers decide to work on is fine with me. I own every title put out. I will conclude my remarks with this. I am 63 years old, and I hope to the Lord above I am around to see and "play" the next full installment of whatever it might be.

Please forgive me in advance for my extreme lack of knowledge on what to me seems to be and inordinate amount of time crank out these CM games. Steve mentioned 10 years ago that it took to complete CMBN, Yeah, that's right. I retired 13 years ago, and I was playing it before then. The business model involved in the development and all the computer work required and all the research that goes into these titles to me seems somewhat staggering. I was in Law Enforcement for almost thirty years, and I spent a lot of time investigating traffic accidents and other criminal activity. While I am in no way making a comparison to my prior work than what the Battlefront folks are doing is to say this. The dedication and hard work that is put into these "games" that we all love so much, certainly for me and I'm sure for everyone else out there in "Battlefront" land is greatly appreciated. Whatever Steve and his coworkers decide to work on is fine with me. I own every title put out. I will conclude my remarks with this. I am 63 years old, and I hope to the Lord above I am around to see and "play" the next full installment of whatever it might be.

Please forgive me in advance for my extreme lack of knowledge on what to me seems to be and inordinate amount of time crank out these CM games. Steve mentioned 10 years ago that it took to complete CMBN, Yeah, that's right. I retired 13 years ago, and I was playing it before then. The business model involved in the development and all the computer work required and all the research that goes into these titles to me seems somewhat staggering. I was in Law Enforcement for almost thirty years, and I spent a lot of time investigating traffic accidents and other criminal activity. While I am in no way making a comparison to my prior work than what the Battlefront folks are doing is to say this. The dedication and hard work that is put into these "games" that we all love so much, certainly for me and I'm sure for everyone else out there in "Battlefront" land is greatly appreciated. Whatever Steve and his coworkers decide to work on is fine with me. I own every title put out. I will conclude my remarks with this. I am 63 years old, and I hope to the Lord above I am around to see and "play" the next full installment of whatever it might be.

Please forgive me in advance for my extreme lack of knowledge on what to me seems to be and inordinate amount of time crank out these CM games. Steve mentioned 10 years ago that it took to complete CMBN, Yeah, that's right. I retired 13 years ago, and I was playing it before then. The business model involved in the development and all the computer work required and all the research that goes into these titles to me seems somewhat staggering. I was in Law Enforcement for almost thirty years, and I spent a lot of time investigating traffic accidents and other criminal activity. While I am in no way making a comparison to my prior work than what the Battlefront folks are doing is to say this. The dedication and hard work that is put into these "games" that we all love so much, certainly for me and I'm sure for everyone else out there in "Battlefront" land is greatly appreciated. Whatever Steve and his coworkers decide to work on is fine with me. I own every title put out. I will conclude my remarks with this. I am 63 years old, and I hope to the Lord above I am around to see and "play" the next full installment of whatever it might be.

Please forgive me in advance for my extreme lack of knowledge on what to me seems to be and inordinate amount of time crank out these CM games. Steve mentioned 10 years ago that it took to complete CMBN, Yeah, that's right. I retired 13 years ago, and I was playing it before then. The business model involved in the development and all the computer work required and all the research that goes into these titles to me seems somewhat staggering. I was in Law Enforcement for almost thirty years, and I spent a lot of time investigating traffic accidents and other criminal activity. While I am in no way making a comparison to my prior work than what the Battlefront folks are doing is to say this. The dedication and hard work that is put into these "games" that we all love so much, certainly for me and I'm sure for everyone else out there in "Battlefront" land is greatly appreciated. Whatever Steve and his coworkers decide to work on is fine with me. I own every title put out. I will conclude my remarks with this. I am 63 years old, and I hope to the Lord above I am around to see and "play" the next full installment of whatever it might be.

Please forgive me in advance for my extreme lack of knowledge on what to me seems to be and inordinate amount of time crank out these CM games. Steve mentioned 10 years ago that it took to complete CMBN, Yeah, that's right. I retired 13 years ago, and I was playing it before then. The business model involved in the development and all the computer work required and all the research that goes into these titles to me seems somewhat staggering. I was in Law Enforcement for almost thirty years, and I spent a lot of time investigating traffic accidents and other criminal activity. While I am in no way making a comparison to my prior work than what the Battlefront folks are doing is to say this. The dedication and hard work that is put into these "games" that we all love so much, certainly for me and I'm sure for everyone else out there in "Battlefront" land is greatly appreciated. Whatever Steve and his coworkers decide to work on is fine with me. I own every title put out. I will conclude my remarks with this. I am 63 years old, and I hope to the Lord above I am around to see and "play" the next full installment of whatever it might be.

Please forgive me in advance for my extreme lack of knowledge on what to me seems to be and inordinate amount of time crank out these CM games. Steve mentioned 10 years ago that it took to complete CMBN, Yeah, that's right. I retired 13 years ago, and I was playing it before then. The business model involved in the development and all the computer work required and all the research that goes into these titles to me seems somewhat staggering. I was in Law Enforcement for almost thirty years, and I spent a lot of time investigating traffic accidents and other criminal activity. While I am in no way making a comparison to my prior work than what the Battlefront folks are doing is to say this. The dedication and hard work that is put into these "games" that we all love so much, certainly for me and I'm sure for everyone else out there in "Battlefront" land is greatly appreciated. Whatever Steve and his coworkers decide to work on is fine with me. I own every title put out. I will conclude my remarks with this. I am 63 years old, and I hope to the Lord above I am around to see and "play" the next full installment of whatever it might be.

Yom kippur war, valley of tears battle, I'm up for that as well as the Sinai when Mr. sagger meets M-48. Ouch.

Yes, my M-26 Pershing will take on the Panther in Cologne Cathedral. Then the King Tiger from the sides. Oh, Super Pershing's perhaps. I might be pushing my luck a bit. 

Yes, my M-26 Pershing will take on the Panther in Cologne Cathedral. Then the King Tiger from the sides. Oh, Super Pershing's perhaps. I might be pushing my luck a bit. 

Can we people out in cyberspace the world over get a 2024 update. I really don't think it's too much to ask, but having said that perhaps it is. Well, I'm asking non the less.
Thanks,
Mark Cerull

I'm all in on early war. France 1940 and Finland 1939. All those goofy Russian tanks and those funky Russian caps. Winter War would be cool.

Sagger vs and M-48, M-60 IDF took a beating at first then figured it out. Still would be cool to play around with. As I have said before Centurian Vs T-62 on the Golan, Valley of Tears, IDF out numbered and on the edge of loosing it all. Certainty not fictional. Again, would be cool to play around with for sure.

A ray of hope for the WW2 early war fan club: Steve does indeed recognize there is a "reasonable way" towards early war.
A first step towards the Holy Grail... 🤩

Not to beat a dead horse (I know deep down that CMGW will never happen, so at this point this is just about correcting historical misconceptions), but while life on the front may be boring and monotonous, I doubt actual battles in any period of warfare have ever been that homogeneous (in the pages of history you can probably find two battles somewhere that were practically twins, but I expect that is the exception). There would be considerably more variety than that, even just in the static warfare phase on the Western Front (so not even considering static warfare on the Italian front, Gallipoli, the somewhat more mobile warfare of the Eastern Front, or the mobile phases of the Western Front (and of course different armies with different TO&Es on the Western Front)). So far Hapless has done four videos on WW1 engagements, three of them in the static warfare phase of the Western Front, and each of them has been dramatically different from the others. The simple fact is that a trench is not a trench (well..it is a trench, but it's not the same trench). There is considerable room for variation in the shape of the front line, the distance between the lines, the relative elevation (is the opposing trench on flat ground, the top of a hill, base of a hill, on a reverse slope, is the second line elevated enough to support the first line). Some trenches could be caved in from bombardments, have more or less barbed wire or mines in front of them, they may be parapets instead of trenches (in some places the ground was too hard to dig deep trenches), the placement of bunkers and other hardpoints along the line would vary, there may be defenses in shell holes in front of, behind (in support), or instead of a contiguous trench line. And there are evolving weapons and tactics. Bayonets in 1914/15 give way to grenades as your primary close-combat weapon in 1916, with increasing numbers of rifle-grenades and light machineguns to provide support in the attack. Companies and platoons give way to squads/sections as the primary maneuver element as command responsibilities are filtered down to lower levels, etc...
Remember that trenches were still in use in WW2, it's just that there were new and better ways to break through those trenches. And I don't recall anyone ever complaining that any two attacks on fortified positions in WW2 were all that similar (I personally found CMFI Gustav Line pretty interesting, even though it is specifically focusing on a period of several months of almost WW1 style static warfare in Italy).
Is my point that Battlefront should make a WW1 game? No. I already know that will never happen. My point, as a military history enthusiast first and gamer second, is only that pretty much any period in military history is far more interesting and varied on closer inspection than it may first have appeared, and that includes the periods that have a reputation for being monotonous.

I'm all in on early war. France 1940 and Finland 1939. All those goofy Russian tanks and those funky Russian caps. Winter War would be cool.

I don't know Steve if the update was a good thing or a bad one. Looks like people are a bit on the twisted side. I was somewhat let down by some of the information, but you did say it was an overview, I was looking forward to more specifics. Having said that, I will wait and see what takes place. For me CMFB is what I am waiting for. Good luck, I a nice nap will go a long way.

Where is or Where's 😉 since we're also discussing grammar

So as far as mods go, it's not going to happen as far as BF is concerned. Okay that's okay. I'm not anyone who could crack anything other than an egg. I still would like to see BF do something with the middle east an the epic tank battles that took place, that all. I'm 62 years old and maybe it will never happen but one can only hope.

Is there any news or updates on the steam release of the other CM titles?

Yes, wild bill. I go back to the Steel Panther days. I remember his work and contributions to our type of game play. May he rest in peace God speed Bill

In CM games our commanders (WW2) seem to very vulnerable to small arms fire. It seems to me to be lopped sided. Almost always the tank commander gets picked off. Watched a you tube video not about CM in particular. What they talked about was a tank commander in allied camp operating from an open hatch during combat. Where the Soviet forces kept buttoned up. In built up urban areas I get it even with infantry in close support the tank commander makes a juicy target. But, out in the countryside? I was just wondering if the game engine is somewhat off as far as the frequency of my Wardaddy's getting smoked every time it seems to me.