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  1. 3 hours ago, arkhangelsk2021 said:

    That might be about what you should really get from tanks trying to hunt down hull-down tanks on the move (from Forcyzk's Tank Warfare on the Eastern Front 1943-45 Red Steamroller).

     

    The hunt is not my point, the suped up T-64A/B is. Interesting exerpt though. Is the author a former M60 or M1 commander writing a book on the EF tank battles?

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    This topic should not die. Here is post I had on the playtesting forum on June 6th. I have been too busy with work to resume tests and make a Mantis report, yet. In my estimation the T-64A/B is better protected and more capable in CMCW than in any board wargame, computer game or simulation I have played, developed or play tested in 30+ years of wargaming. This includes modern armored warfare board games like Assault, MBT (original), MBT 2 (GMT), Lock n' Load, Mech War (SPI) and others. PC games ranging from Tanks, Steel Panthers, Flashpoint Germany & Campaigns, HPS Simulations and Armored Brigade. The only Sim I have used is Steelbeasts.

    POST from June 6th------- 

    I set up a test range that is approximately 2000m long and flat. It is June 1st, 1982, at 0000 hours and the conditions are hazy, cool and dry. I placed 1x M60A3TTS behind a berm hull down with armored arcs set to 1500m. At the opposite end of the map approached 4x T-64A’s (4x tank platoon). The scenario is set for two player hot seat and the Soviet tanks are given a move order to move toward the M60A3TTS’s. All crews are regular, normal and fit. I played the scenario enough times to get 100 shots of M774 APFSDS rounds at an engagement range of 1500m and less and 30 shots of the M256A2 HEAT round an engagement range of 1500m and less. At only no time during the engagements was a T-64A able to engage a M60A3TTS, this is due to the conditions and the thermal sight of the M60A3TTS. BUT I suspect the T-64A may be underperforming in IR optics.

    Here is a summary of my findings:

    The distribution of M774 hits which were all from the frontal arc on the T-64A and are as follows:

    1.       The turret (top turret, front turret, weapon mount and weapon) was hit a combined 5.0% of the time. I believe this is too low

    2.       The lower front hull (Lower, right, left) was hit a combined 17.2% of the time

    3.       The upper front hull (front, right, left) was hit 77.8% of the time. I believe this is too high

    4.       There were no track hits

    The M774 hit 99 out of a 100 shots for 99% accuracy. Perhaps too high.

    Overall,  the M774  penetrated the whole of the T-64A, 18.2% of the time. The only areas to be penetrated on the T-64A was the upper right hull and lower front hull.

    1.       The upper front hull  was struck 1 time and was penetrated for 100% of the time

    2.       The lower front hull was struck 17 times and penetrated 17 times for 100% penetration

     

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    The distribution of M256A2 HEAT hits which were all from the frontal arc on the T-64A and are as follows:

    1.       The turret (top turret, front turret, right turret, weapon mount and weapon) was hit a combined 6.6% of the time. I believe this is too low

    2.       The lower front hull (lower, right, left) was hit a combined 23.3% of the time

    3.       The upper front hull (front, right, left) was hit 70.0% of the time. I believe this is too high

    4.       There were no track hits

    The M256A2 HEAT hit 30 out of a 30 shots for 100% accuracy. Certainly, too high. Most of the rounds were fired at 400m or less but some were fired at >1000m.

    Overall,  the M256A2 HEAT  penetrated the whole of the T-64A, 30.0% of the time. The only areas to be penetrated on the T-64A was the upper front hull and lower front hull.

    1.       The upper front hull  was struck 2 times and was penetrated for 100% of the time

    2.       The lower front hull was struck 7 times and penetrated 7 times for 100% penetration

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    I may Mantis this concerning the high concentration of upper front hull hits and low concentration of turret front hits.

    Pete

     

  3. 9 minutes ago, Lukevan16 said:

    So I’ve seen some people on this forum referring to the ‘79 scenario as the ‘pre-Abrams/Bradley era,’ which seems to imply that Bradleys will be available come 1982. However, upon doing some research it seems that the Bradley was only issued to combat units in March 1983. Does anyone know if this is correct? Were Bradleys in Germany during this game’s timeframe?   

     

    Shhhhhhhhhhhhh, be quiet!

  4. I'm curious of the level of ammunition detail in particularly in anti tank guns.

     

    Did the following rounds make it in or is there even this level of detail ?

     

    Soviet:

     

    100mm D-10T: BM-20 APFSDS-T  1976

    100mm D-10T: BM-25 APFSDS-T  1978

    115mm 2A20: BM-21 APFSDS-T  1975   

    115mm 2A20: BM-28 APFSDS-T   1978

    125mm 2A46: BM-22 APFSDS-T   1976   

    125mm 2A46: BM-29 APFSDS-T  1982

    125mm 2A46: BM-26 APFSDS-T   1983

     

    US

     

    105mm L7: M735 APFSDS-T        1978      

    105mm L7: M774 APFSDS-T        1980      

    105mm L7: M833 APFSDS-T        1983

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