Kieme(ITA)
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Probably that T-72 didn't percieve the 30mm grenades from the side as a real threat, and therefore decided to stick with the ordered arc.
Let's take an example:
you are pretty sure an enemy tank will sooner or later pop out of that corner in the building area over there, so you order your T-72 a cover arc (armor) in front of it, to cover the space ahead; this way you are sure nothing will distract your unit from that incoming juicy and unaware target.
Now, the enemy has a 30mm grenade launcher that recently deployed in a house on the other side of the building area and starts hammering your T-72.
Outcomes:
-T-72 breaks cover arc order, turns around 45° on its right, turns the turret, aims and shoot, repeats a couple of shots against the grenade launcher destroying it. Meanwhile the enemy tank you expected pops out of the corner, turns the turret, and before your T-72 can react it's killed.
-T-72 keeps the cover arc, loses its tracks and gets a few other degraded outside modules. Meanwhile the enemy tank you expected pops out and is killed immediately.
As you can see there are many possibilities and outcomes, the fact is the cover arc is a specific player order, and thus it must have a strong force on the unit behaviour, otherwise it would be useless, if not even negative.
There might be hundreds of different situations, where you would have liked a different behaviour... in my opinion this one is pretty much consistent with the manual description of how cover arcs work.
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Sorry guys, but all this discussion reminds me of good old asymmetrical warfare and black-capped people running with big metal tubes.
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There are a few other late war vehicles coming from northern Italy industries, such as the semovente 75/46
Even the 105mm version.
Or the AB43
In different versions of late war.
Late war armored cars:
S37 protetto
665 scudato
Moreover, there's a Whole bounch of new Fascist formations, most of them with German equipment and training, made from the Social Republic of Salo, such as the Republic National Guard.
Some of those units had a good level of "motivation" and training, in terms of combat mission games.
There were a lot of fights involving partisan units in northern Italy, in 1944/45. These kind of small unit fights, with old and low-quality vehicles, mixed formations etc. could be very well modeled with this game capabilities.
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Just take an M1, put a T-72 in front of it, order the M1 a cover arc (armor) few meters around it- When the laser warning blinks the M1 will brake the arc and act accordingly.
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Nice one BTR. The kruganets is really tall, I wonder how much space there must be inside. Also the boomerang thing there seems very tall.
When I first saw a BMP-1 in person I was amazed by how short it was (I am average heigh myself), so much for traditions.
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Did your tank actually spot the enemy on its side?
I am asking because right now the game allows the unit that is ordered a cover arc to fire outside it/ignore it.
For example: if you order a tank a small cover arc and you start shooting it with another tank, you can be sure that after few seconds the tank with the cover arc will shoot back.
From the manual_
Any enemy units outside of this target arc will be ignored (until self-preservation takes over and the Tactical AI decides to override player orders; e.g. if an enemy unit suddenly pops up at extremely short range).
In your case either the incoming fire was judged not a big risk by your tank, or the enemy was very distant, or both cases were not enough for your tank to ignore your ordered cover arc.
All in all my suggestion is never to abuse the cover arcs and have faith in your troops, and rely to the arcs only when you really want to achieve a precise result in a precise situation.
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It would require pretty high levels of cooperation and communication between the players on the same teams.
That's the best part of this kind of gaming.
Never tried it, but you can pretty well assume coms problems etc.
You can also set a high electronic warfare condition, or, impose as a house rule that the two players can not communicate at all (you'll need 3 other players who want to follow the rules).
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But how many explosion can you have in the same second ? It said somewhere that PzH2000 can place 5 incoming rounds in a 1,2 sec window. Is that sth that can be reproduced in the game atm?
I am no programmer of this game, but I would say it's possible by all means.
By the way, this sounds really like a perfect additional feature for a module containing that kind of new asset.
The largest battery in game now has 6 gun tubes.
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All mods released recalling topic
A list of ALL mods released within this thread until now, organized by genre, with their direct download links.
Terrain and environmental mods:
Ground mod (HD) pt1 https://app.box.com/...fg7et7668q0egdg
Ground mod (HD) pt2 https://app.box.com/...j3bad939iks1n9l
Alternative crops https://app.box.com/...r7w6dzrnsf11piz
Reworked foliage https://app.box.com/...f1jwjax2wix1o7x
Reworked horizon https://app.box.com/...szl3cd0qamdkrm8
Alternative overcast clouds https://app.box.com/...wju3wq9ttmjoqfi
Improved doodads https://app.box.com/...3q3p05qdl9ld8ws
Buildings and structures:
Alternative walls (HD) https://app.box.com/...t85ik1b08fb2nh4 OR (standard) https://app.box.com/...bgyx6uimvvyrmdh
Modular buildings (HD) https://app.box.com/...eke1u99f5jowptc
Modular buildings add-on 1 (HD) https://app.box.com/...qsj7b68xyp0ffxx
Modular buildings add-on 2 (HD) https://app.box.com/s/3b38gl6wykb1h1sqmovv4z5gicof4krf
Modular buildings add-on 3 (HD) https://app.box.com/s/3jvzj9rmgdbpg14gpcgbok88qk3ik8es
Modular roofs pf1 https://app.box.com/...rlaub62hs2h0fv9
Modular roofs pt2 https://app.box.com/...emmodn5b44qklnh
Improved roads (HD) https://app.box.com/...yk9jx7f6gnhra04 OR (standard) https://app.box.com/...1imrd2qzjawar7s
Troops and soldiers:
Reworked russian uniforms https://app.box.com/...8cz7adh3s1pz0vk
Reworked ukrainian uniforms https://app.box.com/...7riaboi9uty98u8
Reworked USA faces https://app.box.com/...8wxgnbj6a70cq0e
Reworked USA faces -50% glasses add on https://app.box.com/...yz48ujqqf2g7j7w
Reworked USA faces more faces add on https://app.box.com/...97xjl5sfb2ibdyn
Reworked USA uniforms https://app.box.com/s/br9tjcxrbr2451oe5h1bp7e706ywojuc
Ukrainian Army vehicles:
T-64BV https://app.box.com/...c5frk9z83nuxva5
T-84Oplot (digital) https://app.box.com/...l2tisg6o07hgjw0
T-84Oplot (green) https://app.box.com/s/zwyqv1lnih6tjacvtgjuo78eqvyvaioq
T-64Bulat (three-tones) https://app.box.com/...3xxf4whsf6n5zhe
BMP-2 https://app.box.com/...sl2sjfz9r70xcf7
BTR-4e (digital) https://app.box.com/...6jyr7trg674up2t
BTR-70m https://app.box.com/...4rwj8z19s3kl8qz
BRDM-2 https://app.box.com/...alv4dv8xmvydtnh
MTLB (+variants) https://app.box.com/...bh3z9lz0u0p21of
MTLBu https://app.box.com/...7z988tn5rhft6zw
BRM-PRP https://app.box.com/...4etbn1wg88cvcjm
UAZ-URAL https://app.box.com/...q0v82xrhnv8b2z1
Tunguska https://app.box.com/...8luj5zzvgsyrq8z
MT-12 https://app.box.com/...l1apiqq7hv1qhfn
US Army vehicles:
Abrams https://app.box.com/...3gmrqkblhum95ia
Abrams tank names add on https://app.box.com/...9tsjsl4yolekpaa
Bradley https://app.box.com/...0zd8pylvea4j763
Bradley desert era add on https://app.box.com/...b0vv2kahj9uo3sp
Bradley graffiti add on https://app.box.com/...hsi84qez2x45v4c
Bradley vehicle names add on https://app.box.com/...r9a1ugab6zjneki
Hummer https://app.box.com/...claiqv2b2fwr2do
Stryker https://app.box.com/...dd453pfjawtae0f
M1200 https://app.box.com/...qdhbrgcj3m7klfb
M1200 vs-17 optional https://app.box.com/...i379lmzccm7u3p2
M1200 vehicle names add on https://app.box.com/...tya89575i8s2e95
M1064A3 https://app.box.com/...14n7vw0ok91b8ti
LMTV https://app.box.com/...3exicb4w5f31h9a
Russian Army vehicles:
T-72B3 - light green https://app.box.com/s/8eur26fc1lhidwa3tg7jaod86ciqcimt
T-72B3 - dark green https://app.box.com/s/akgz9isilqy1xuila6uergp8qdymg1sd
T-90A - camo https://app.box.com/s/h97wmn4yhonwqzoxvteis394jy3l0436
T-90A - green https://app.box.com/s/10ws24qpg2ocoxhf73dehcxfd66ebnl1
T-90AM - camo https://app.box.com/s/cv6qpg0lqn9c8px4w8b6xzilecahbsrc
T-90AM - green https://app.box.com/s/ff1r784wb2sk7cgxl8l0rr9169ap3u46
BMP-3M - camo https://app.box.com/s/m1wn11nhw48ftkbozuhl5z4lsoqsh553
BMP-3M - green https://app.box.com/s/iy6iayfjfqn951fvmo44dtixtgdgdzmm
BMP-3-k - green https://app.box.com/s/mowro433fzj30l9226sqez8jsvm1kt67
BRM-3k - camo https://app.box.com/s/ggehoowiw4irfugh0pgffse7nn9r73vl
Krizantema - light green https://app.box.com/s/qdlglo955m795sr2kkfvapdxehogsfif
Krizantema - dark green https://app.box.com/s/u7y7ois0imy77jxb7z4s88r17frn4tx5
BMP-2-k-M - dark green https://app.box.com/s/3zqr2zbyaz7pjc1a598isn2a7boacmln
BMP-2-k-M - light green https://app.box.com/s/5va39km5skgld4z1wxdwjc7dnx1ffvfl
BRM-PRP https://app.box.com/s/8g5bik7uc8rsm8qpf4wrtx1x29msng2b
BRDM-2-M-AT5 https://app.box.com/s/tj4cfslxv1i33qncdqhtg4qn7ihjud39
BTR-82-80 - camo https://app.box.com/s/epo5cea3s33l42p55vzr04lm5cov1o2l
BTR-80-82 - green https://app.box.com/s/2gm061govy27eoxgp9cftxgmpclvr31y
Tunguska - green https://app.box.com/s/y40xg7xlincl3jjsh0qi2w2ma7u7cums
Tunguska - camo https://app.box.com/s/19z7fuib25jo1muct7yzx5fgznl8fx1d
Tigr - green https://app.box.com/s/xaj3pfohjezyfmo1jzfitlxmmkjvv938
Tigr - camo https://app.box.com/s/7n52uuxmjn6jjfr2o6mhc0jozr3zx6nh
Others:
Additional flavor objects 1 https://app.box.com/s/z745hm21a86oo924wkzelqib9dsdticc
Additional flavor objects 2 https://app.box.com/s/puyx6ropwm502j9zpjmm5v1r0y31vltc
Additional flavor objects 3 https://app.box.com/s/5iuxnrjqt05olpodsy0bsu0kcqpqr6vz
Additional flavor objects 4 https://app.box.com/s/z2aeqpm7ecsznnpgjn5sdnvmgtzql9ax
Additional flavor objects 5 https://app.box.com/s/odn7zwh274fd2chzwfvhtafmqoya04mj
Optional highway (TAG) https://app.box.com/s/jfwkivms84094nno5lyb20eyt4fh8x7t
Optional highway total conversion https://app.box.com/s/um40u18msvxpjpflwjzmdh3f73rt3i0s
Optional highway total conversion editor buttons https://app.box.com/s/p12rlix2lpbui9n8r1zmq0rza93qa2ag
Total: 1.7 GB
Top dowloader is: Kieme CMBS Modular Buildings (HD) with 401 downloads, followed by Kieme CMBS Ground Mod (HD) 371 downloads.
Top downloader vehicle is: T-64BV, Bulat and BMP-2-k UA with 252 downloads.
-Still missing some Russian vehicles, mainly the MTLB + variants. Which should come next. Then a few other odds and ends and reworks of UA vehicles. Still need to mod all game's bridges (under way). Then rework the independent buildings (some, at least). Maybe make a dirty/used variant for the personal/heavy infantry weapons.
-Master downloads: I tried with some options, but the master downloads would be very large files, and my upload speed is very slow, that would mean hours and hours of upload time and my connection is not that good, I often get error messages due to connection drops/hangouts/lag spikes, so at least for now I cannot provide master (collection) downloads.
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Thanks for the suggestions guys.
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Hehe, I wish.
The only reference can be CMSF, and those three are all the vehicles available. I thought about making different color cars, but the problem is that the textures linked to that particular car will Always have the same name, while hull and doors/hood are separated in two files. This means that we could add variations to those textures, naming them 2, 3, etc. but you'll Always get mixes, such as a car with blue hull and red doors. It would Always be a mix, not really great looking. If only all the textures were in a single .bmp file we could have different color cars.
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Hey maybe it's just me. Anyone else?
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The file for the introduction music is called:
music intro
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These footages are very interesting. In my opinion the choice of adding such disco music is idiotic, because you lose half of what it is they are showing (like a 125mm gun shooting, or the 30mm burst).
I hope that these lower grade T-72 will be added in the future as additional options to the CMBS game.
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Considering how I have seen troops getting nervous if not worst (literally) after losing their HQ unit, do you think that losing the battalion HQ will have the same impact on all units of the battalion? I'm asking because I never experienced such a situation.
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IanL, doesn't work. Those are haunted pics
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So, this is more suited for the extreme difficulty version of the game rather than anything lower than the max setting?
Do you Always purchase the battalion command unit if you have more than a single company at hand?
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Are these vehicles still used by the Army? Marines?
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Those last two links yes. And that's a nasty clogh
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Can't see your pics reiter
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It is possible that Italian troops in Southern Italy had the flamethrower version of the L3 light tank:
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It was discussed some time ago, if the CM2x games could be wrapped into a single big collection, where the result would be much similar to your proposal.
IIRC marketing reasons were adducted as a negative view of this idea, as well as the problem of a huge single download.
Personally, I would favor this a lot, especially if older titles are managed into the same level (patch) of the newest. This big boundle would be perfect for someone coming to the game for the first time, maybe overwhelming, but the ability to enter a game where the entire ETO, as you described, is available to play with would be very interesting.
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Seems important to cross-reference with the kind of weapon that destroyed the vehicle. And then evaluate the % of blown up turrets.
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Kieme CMBS additional flavor objects 5 (monument) updated now to include a 4th additional tank: T-34/85 1944.
hd vanila terrain
in Combat Mission Black Sea
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You can take the vanilla textures and double their resolution, but the effect you'll get will be to halve their quality.
Other way would be to take the original textures, replicate them in a larger texture and you get sort of hd, but in truth they will be just more repeated.
In order to get an HD texture you'll need a texture that is originally double the size of the vanilla one (or shrink one to obtain such size).