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  1. I think the heart of the matter is that the Germans, for all thier ground breaking armored ideas, got off on wierd tangeants late in the war. Having a 'Panther' armored division (2 Panther battalions), with heavy retrieval assets (bergpanther) available, is a much better use of Panthers given the known breakdown/recovery issues. The lighter Panzer III and Panzer IV chassis vehicles could still get by with HT recovery vehicles. The nightmare of a single battalion Panther (or brigade) trying to churn out a company of 'runners' was the storey of these heavy vehicles from the beginning.
  2. A (single?) Panther on the defense is a single tank. It can readily be smoked/bombed/out-manuvered. The correct use of armor is in groups and utilize thier mobility.
  3. I would mark up the overall poor performance to crappy leadership at command level and facing TAC-Air and Superior Artillery than any 'Green' factor. Its hard to get past 'green' when you are bled Red from the get-go. Panthers/PanzerIVs are not uber-tanks and any time they are used 'Tiger-Style' (outnumbered by many weapons), they will lose. By mid-44, the whole uber-tank (armor across front/sides defeating AP) is a thing of the past. Most guns can hole most tanks in the sides. Only combined arms/use of smoke/concentration of force can offset an enemy. Driving a Brigade into the m
  4. Actually the Panzer Brigades started with Hitler's suggestion about having small mobile fast groups to counter attack an destroy enemy armored attacks. They were supposed to be 'antitank' units and counter attacking units at that. He brought this up right before Bagration. Perhaps that is why they were 'based' around the 75MML70 gun (Panther and JagdpanzerIVL). Tigers are too slow and other 88s (Jagdpanther) not available. The 'Panther' gun would give the units 'homogenous' ammunition/gunners and AT capability. On the eastern front, attacking armored units would have greatly outnumbe
  5. Interesting that the Panzer Brigades were given Panthers. Many of the remnants were absorbed into PD after being destroyed btw. They were also used on the eastern front and accounted for many of the panthers lost during the summer.
  6. The Panzer Brigades were not all green men. They were built around remnants of other divisions and would surely have some experienced people amongst the green loaders and other 17-18 year olds. I can't say I approve of the concept if there were PD and PGD that could have used the weapons instead. The Soviets had figured out how to do things by late 43. Unbelievable that the Germans would futz around like they did.
  7. So what was the 25 pounder's intended task? Certainly not blast. Was it supposed to make large fragments? As far as asphixiation, it would only be possible if the Japanese were knocked unconcious first. They were found sitting with thier hands over thier ears. As far as the guy in the jeep, he was more than likely closest to the wheel that struck the mine. The body of the jeep acted as a blast shield for everyone else in the jeep more than likely. The air burst of a hand grenade (grenades do not generally make supersonic microsplinters) is interesting. Weapons with thin walls a
  8. Here we see that being in a tank, immune from fragments, but still vulnerable to the concussive effects of artillery. Here we have another concussion type effect..a super CW grenade? Landmine selective concussion.. [ April 17, 2005, 11:37 AM: Message edited by: Wartgamer ]
  9. Or maybe the irritable old foul mouthed guy will stick to WWII era data and act like an expert. More than likely, since data supporting my theories exist, the typical self-congratulating CW responce will be more butt-blown-smoke and hand waving and scoffing. Speaking of which, I read where the TOT was probably the best method for using the US type of chemical smoke. The burning kind. The 4.2 apparently could kill through concussion when troops were in caves. It could certainly throw troops into the air. [ April 16, 2005, 04:16 PM: Message edited by: Wartgamer ]
  10. www.aapmr.org/zdocs/assembly/04handouts/C168_4.pdf In any discussion, modern research should also be taken into account. It seems that mild concussions/brain injuries were not well understood and 'shell-shock' may actually have been a physical injury. Given this, many blast events in a short duration certainly would have an adverse effect. It is very analogous to being struck by a flurry of punches. Note also that HE displaces bodies. The body is actually benefitted by 'going' with the blast wave. If it were rigid (like being up against a wall), it would suffer considerably.
  11. It was a quite good piece. Unfortunately, it had an inferior shell. But I suspect that you are actually practising what you are accusing me off. You are in denial. The 25 pounder had a 7% payload. I would like to know what its shell wall thickness was (hopefully it was cast iron).
  12. This was the data I wanted to posrt earlier but cut and paste the incorrect data from the same website. The study was a group of 100 casualties. From a lethality standpoint, blast is negligible. From a casualty producing agent; it is not. It is clearly additive to fragmentation in many cases. There are also many effects and other non-treated injuries that HE blast causes. Partial deafness, nervous conditions, bruisin, etc.
  13. Oh, before I forget, the very weak 25 pounder switched to a more powerful explosive late in the war in an attempt to increase its output to something more effective.
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