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  1. ok steinar youve earned my point by point condescending treatment. Ive never had to do it before, but then ive never met any one on this forum so dumb.

    1.

    "Why, if Israel is called the jewish state by it's own definition?"

    First of no it doesnt. It caLLS ITSELF ISRAEL! NOT ALL ISRALEI'S ARE JEWISH DUMB ARSE!

    2.

    "I don't give anything, what sounds terrible to short minded poeple, not capable, to read and understand what is written, but instead acting like Pawlov Dogs."

    wtf, TRY AND MAKE SENSE PLEASE!

    aND WHO ARE YOU REFERING TO EXACTLY? YOURSELF? WELL YOU SHOULD BE!

    3.

    "Sure.

    That USrael has a strange understanding of what sovereign and free means and that international laws doesn't count for those 'liberators', is not my problem."

    yEAH SURE STRANGE. iF BY STRANGE YOU MEAN BEING ABLE TO DO THINGS THAT YOU LIKE TO DO WITHIN REASON.

    4.

    "Hm, can you tell me, where i wrote that?

    It's funny, how incapable people are to understand what is written and meant (although my english is not good, it was definately understandable and clearly expressed).

    But on the other hand it explains, how easy it is for western politics, to play it's game and where the masters of mass-manipulation reside"

    Yeah i can tell you, in your post he qouted you retard!

    The masters of manipulation are the voices in your head that are telling you your not stupid!

    5.

    "It's all a matter of point of view.

    And a matter who wins."

    there are such things as stupid points of view. BTW you have one.

    6.

    1. where is the US? Where are the arabic countries? What is between? [Wink]

    okay just stop trying to think, it doesnt suit you.

    7.

    "2. since 200 years always the same system is claiming only to defend itself - strangely in the meanwhile it rules the world, although it always claims, the evil oponents want to do so... [big Grin] "

    Yeah forget hitler, stalin, pol pot and the like, its democracy thats bad! yeah smart idea, no honestly realy smart!

    8.

    "3. if you talk about poor kids, you should first talk about the 500.000 children, that were victims of the embargo of the great, peaceful west."

    If your refering to the embargo's on iraq that was put up by nato. Not by any of the nations directly.

    "Then you should think about the victims in the arabic world during the last 100 years, thanks to western 'liberation'."

    Of where exactly?

    like lockerbie and other such incidents didnt kill people! realy you are very stupid. I cant even think up ways of making you look stupid, your doing such a good job yourself.

    9.

    "Then you should think about the genozide-state of the Zionists, Israel.

    And after putting that into equation, then you are allowed to judge about martyrs and freedom fighters."

    Even if you were right, it would only be the governement and eventhen only some members of the military. Not the entire populataion you thick f@@K.

    10.

    "It's excatly this unbelievable concentration of stupidity and arrogance of the western system and it's citizens, why it is becoming that much despised all over the world - even among his own citizens, who are more or less the profiteers of this world-robbery system, but more and more see through all those primitive lies of good vs evil and take their personal consequences."

    while there may be some truth in this, it is the same the woprld over, or did saddam hussain and co treat evryone pecaefully and fairly? ... no i didnt think so.

    11.

    "If ppl can not accept other opinions, but call themselves democrats or whatever, is not important to me. Stupidity is endless. "

    You realise you have just desrcibed yourself?

    12.

    "But i know, that many ppl think like me, only very few tell their real opinions in forums like i did anyway.

    Because i like BFC, because i want further WWII-products, i wanted to give them a hint, not to fall into the US-centric trap.

    "

    most people wouldnt post opinions like yours on forums because there to ashamed of there neo-nazi propoganda that they have been braiwashed with.

    And bfc are only temporarly being us centric for economic reasons, which they have explained already.

    "My experience is, that usually US-citizens have absolutely the worst knowledge of what is really happening in the world - but ironically they think, they were the best informed ppl, like they believe, they have the best army..."

    Well even if that is true, there still smarter better informed and less ignorant than you.

  2. ummmm, apds varied wildly, ill look for the url for you.

    But up until august 17pdr apds was not issued, because of yawing which as you say caused the round to performe badly. But quality stock as was largely issued, as can be seen at the test's at balleroy penetrated the panthers glacias at 700 yards.

    2 hits out of 2 penetrated including another hit at the junction between the glacias and the nose which also penetrated.

    Although over 800 yards it became an issue again, also over 800 yards apds could be somewhat innacurate.

    And nice debating to you too.

  3. "When playing CMBO I usually play US not British, because well to be honest the british had such crap equipment, ( My dad was a Para in his national service so I like them though). "

    WTF? ERR not any worse than the american army actualy, yu should be playing as the germans if that is the case.

    Abbott, I think you got a little extreme there, i wouldnt say soddball was crying like a girly man.

    It was a flippant sarcastic remark, but i think his underlying point is A. his not ex service, and b not american. So he has no interest in modern warfare or this game.

    I agree though battlefront are not wrong to make this game.

  4. i dont have a problem with syria, or near future.

    It's not even the fact we have to "pretend" to be americans.

    It's just previous cm games, allowed 3+ sides with different equipment balances.

    This allowed for alot of replayability, different tactic styles, doubley so in cmbb and cmak if you consider the long time frames.

    This is my problem wity cmfs, but to blame battlefront for not doing something exactly as i liked?

    No.........

    I couldnt care less if it were 2009 falklands war 2 The junta strikes back.

    Its a modern warfare sim, and 90% of my games were tcp/ip or quick battles.

    I mean there's only a certain number of times you can play through the single player campaign anyway.

    i can understand people like me who are worried about the lack of units.

    But there will be modules, there's the ability to do red on red and blue on blue.

    Im sure this will be expanded, so if mr neo nazi man wants to do germany v the us he may just well be able to.

    It's just a matter of time, a module wont be much good if im bored of the game by the time it comes out.

    P.S

    Andreas your right to say what you have about neo nazi boy, i only responded like that because its the politist thing i could bring myself to say.

    (i have familiy in lousiana who dont live to far from new orleans, so it was a bit personly)

    Put it this way, if i could find outwhere he lived he would have already had a personal visit, to tell him face to face how upset with him i was.

    Of course thats if i could get passed his fuhrer force field.

  5. fair enough, as long as ts under 50 quid with one module. Im in!

    I take back my previous comment about not buying another cm game.

    I do understand you cant cater to all our needs, im not expecting you to be esp super men.

    Edit(49.99 is my max, works out at approximatly 70-80 dollars)

    [ October 09, 2005, 02:22 AM: Message edited by: roqf77 ]

  6. 1. yes i was, i was refering to the tiger, and the guns were made pre 1944. So yes it is true.

    Plus there test plates(which i was refering to also stayed the same.)

    Lastly the jumbo's hull could be over come by both the l70 75mm and the l71 88mm (with pgr 39-42 apc and apcbc), not opinion its fact.

    The churchill was also invunerable frontaly to the l56 88mm at any range. Although it could probably pent he jumbo's turret at short range.

    Have you read any fire test's against panthers?

    Even hulls form panthers of medium quality(i.e not flawed but not top quality) only resisted a couple of hits form 17 pounders from range's where by your logic they would be impervious because of the slope(with apcbc).

    its clear we dont see eye to eye. And this just isnt going anywhere. Id be happy to discuss other things with you if you like. Either via a new post ornew topic. But i think at the moment we are just flogging a dead horse.

  7. look krazy dog, im more upset about steve's replies than anything else.

    Ill restate what i said.

    1. IM INTERESTED IN THE GAME!(it is to my liking, i have been waiting for a current non command and conquer clone, modern rts for a while actualy)

    2. but limited units and sides turns me off a little.(doesnt have to be british or even ww2)

    3. Not spending 50-60 quid on one game from anyone(unless its amazing, id need proof first).

    I am going to get the demo, and give it a try and from your track record im sure it will be good.

    Again i meant no personal insult to either of you, especialy steve. I have enjoyed cm1 games (all 3 of them).

    Games i was refering to were well there's to many to list but here's a short one of the top of my head.(The entire total war series, coduo(fps i know, but only 1 exspansion total cost under 50 quid, evil genius no exspansion and cost under 50 quid, ghost recon 1 exspansion and cost under 50 quid and so on and so on).

  8. but steve your then doing what the majority of games companies dont do.

    E.g bf 1942 and??????????????????????????????????

    Im not paying full price for a half game and then spend another 30 to fill it up.

    I made that mistake with bf 1942.

    Its not a case of wanting my cake and eating it.

    Its just im not being ripped off.

    Like i said ill give you the benefit of the doubt, but without naming names other games companies can fit more in games without the need for modules and sell it under 30 quid a title.

    And before you say it there nto all massive game's companies either.

    Im sorry you seem to hae taken my comments so personaly, i was not judging that you were doing this. I was simply as i have said not paying 60 quid for a game im not massivly interested in.

  9. well personaly the game intersts me.

    But to call adding major nations like britain and germany to hard ridiclous.

    Sorry steve but until a module(if there is one) that gives me more than 2 nations to play as, then i aint gettin the game.

    The same applies for all cmx2 games, and if the grand total comes to more than 30 quid per title including modules then well it looks like you've lost a customer who bought all three cm1 games.

    Im not a cash cow to be milked.

    But for now im willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.

  10. well the flak 88 failed up to point blank against the churchill to It had to use apcr.

    a churchill took 4 direct hits from the l70 75mm at 500 yards and was repaired and returned to the field.

    By us figures, the l 70 75mm gun penetrates about 175mm at 500 yards.

    This is capable of penetrating the turret, and the upper hull at 500 yards with more than one hit.

    By german armour plate(again higher quality than the us)

    The l 71 88mm penetrated 225mm of armour at 100 yards 207mm at 500 yards and 190mm at 1,000 yards.

    at 800 yards it would pen about 196mm of armour.

    More than capable of penetrating the tuuret and upper hull of the jumbo, if it had german quality armour(which it didnt).

    As for your example of the tigers turret it had a bhn of 283.

    this would make the turret about effective as 140mm of us armour, still less effective than the jumbo's turret. and notcible less effective than the gun mantlet.

  11. by removing 25% i.e difference in bhn.

    you get.

    102mm at 47 dg = 137mm.

    114mm at 47 degree's is 153mm.

    127mm at 47 = 170mm.

    140mm at 47 degrees = 188mm.

    So by me the turret and upper hul ar weaker, but the jumbo's lower hull is stronger. but they are very similar. i.e side turret is 105mm equivalent at bhn 315.

    side hulls, 76mm unsloped.

    The 57mm side hull of the churchill is covered by tracks.

    the hull you would hit with a gun is 95mm, equivalent about119mm of armour at bhn 250.

    I cant remeber where i got the 152mm all around for the churchills turret. So i conceed.

    Basicaly, the churchill has a tougher upper hull and frontal turret.

    The jjumbo has a tougher frontaly lower hull and side turret, but is weaker to the side hull and rear hull too.

    Even if the difference's were not massive.

    [ October 07, 2005, 03:16 PM: Message edited by: roqf77 ]

  12. tuue but standard armour curves included the chance of defelction within the relative armour value.

    Bhn is a rating of pressure a point of armour can take. i think 1 bhn is equal to 10kg per square inch. So it is kinda relative to armour effectiveness. The only real problem with bhn is it doesnt show up flaws.

    my armour curvce figure is...

    102mm at 47 degrees = 183mm.

    140mm = 250mm.

    127mm = 227mm.

    But id say there about the same.

    ill ask more questions later. gonna go play coduo.

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