Fly Pusher

Yes ! Add me to the 'Sneak Restoration Campaign' agitators listing.

The difference between OSX on an old G3 and a modern DP G4 are huge.Windoze users wouldnt even attempt to run XP on underpowered hardware. Yet Apple gives Mac users the option because of the longer life of their products and all people can do is whine ! Go DP. It'll bring a smile to your face.

The CMBB demo is very poor at selling the game as somthing worthwhile IMHO. I almost didnt bother buying the game as a result . But the full game thing is MUCH better and worthy of your (soon to be much diminished) free time. Go for it. And welcome to the club.....

I realise that BBS need to earn their crust and would be unwilling to give access to the databases, but how about an old product unlikely to generate much additional revenue ? Why not make CMBO opensource ? Then the prog-grogs can hack away at the AI's on CMBO and maybe contribute something useful to future versions of the game. In the meantime the rest of us can play CMBB. It didnt hurt Linux

A possibility I would like to suggest: Mabe a FO with LOS to a target but without LOS to the point of impact of the spotting rounds will fail to see the spotting rounds come down and so be unable to corect appropriately ? Also you can you target a FO onto somewhere out of LOS and during the fire delay move that observer into LOS. However, does the resulting fire land as for an observer who always had LOS or is it as if the target was still out of LOS ? I would suggest that its only important to have LOS to see the spotting rounds but have recently had most of a 150mm barrage arrive off map in such a situation even when the FO had LOS for the actual shoot.

Firstly let me point out that I have no Über-Grogie insider knowledge. However I do have a potential explanation that I would like to suggest: Once a rocket battery fired, and didnt have immediate ordres to fire again wouldnt they pack up and be ready to scoot quickly just in case potential counter-battery fire was on its way ? After all, rockets do leave a big long smoke trail indicating quite clearly where they originated. I would suggest that they wouldnt unpack, fuse and load big fat HE rockets and have them sitting out in the open. What would then happen when the first counter-battery ranging rounds came in ? Big KABOOM ??. Rather I think it is appropriate that they do NOT reload if they don't have orders indicating that they were about to be fired. Just a thought

I noticed something similar playing the demo and was going to post. But the full game arrived the next day and I got distracted slightly... However, I have since had gun damaged tanks that WOULD still fire mg's. So maybe both the main gun and the hull mg were damaged in our cases ?

I had read that the forced workers in the tank factories sometimes purposely pollished the frontal armor plates and glacis horizontally in order to create microscopic imperfections more likely to catch an AT round. Obviously this was very dangerous for them as the pollishing over-seers were quite brutal...

Without the Russians the western powers would not have won the war by conventional means. However, the 1st Atom bomb would have been dropped on Berlin. The next 4 on Hamburg, Munich, Frankfurt and Koln. The replacement government would have sued for peace a couple of weeks later. Just my oppinion....

I agree that there may be an issue with the speed that tanks react to air attack. However the thing that really worries me is the apparent ability of an air boy approaching at over 300mph to distinguish the experience level of people on the inside of buttoned tanks and take out the most experienced tanks first. Über Borg spotting if you ask me... A comment from on high would be appreciated !

Originally posted by akdavis If this is true I would agree that the selective destruction of more experienced crews would greatly enhance the relative 'power' of aircraft in an artificial and non-historic manner. I would guess that more experienced crews would be LESS likely to be targeted due to better use of cover or more acccurate anti-aircraft fire. Has anyone else made this observation ?

I dont know about further east in the 1940's, but in central Germany now the wheat has almost all been harvested by mid August. Oil-Seed rape (Canola in US?) is earlier, barley & rye maybe a bit later. If I had to hide in a wheat field I'd do it in June.

Thanks for the response Kwazy But, what was the reason for changing the sneak command at all ? Was there something wrong with the way it was ? I for one quite liked the old CM:BO sneak. It used to be my main infantry movement command. And now its gone..... -sob- -sob-.

My understanding was that Stalin ordered all captured gardeners, especially those of French descent, to be shipped to Siberia to perfect Bonsi-Bocage weapons which could be transported by partisans in briefcases and planted in rear areas to hinder resupply. I thought this was well known !?

Have any German Mac users received their copies yet ? Still twitching......

Have any German Mac users received their copies yet ? Still twitching......

Well, I hope everyone is right and my observation is just a function of light AT guns not delivering a one-off killer blow. It still feels a bit 'odd' to me, but I'm very willing to be proved wrong in a few days. No, I'm not sure I caught your comments on that particular subject Panzer76 - would you like to elaborate ?

I take your point Michael, and many brave men undoubtedly died at their posts. However I am a little reluctant to atribute too much to written accounts and histories that describe heroic deeds. These were documented precisely because they were heroic, noteworthy and throw a favourable light on the unit. The tank that survived the battle despite looking like a collander is bound to get more attention than the abandoned tank with a few scratches on the front glacis. With this in mind, I wonder just how common such 'multiply pierced' tanks really were.

Its more the psychological 'impact' I'm thinking of. An AP round hitting your tank at 680m/s is gioing to make one hell of a bang. If some of it gets through or spalls armour from the inside its really going to get your attention. Would you really just sit tight and wait for it to happen again ? And again, and again..... ?

While I agree that the ‘one hit and you’re dead’ model of CM:BO leaves something to be desired I would like to suggest that the new CM:BB Demo model, in which multiple hits and penetrations often appear to be ignored by tank crews, has gone too far in the opposite direction. While I do not claim to be a military aficionado, it would seem to me that a tank crew whose vehicle had just been hit by an un-spotted anti-tank asset would be VERY worried. Had that anti-tank gun also penetrated the armour of said tank, then chances are that shards of red hot / molten metal would have spent some time dissipating their remaining kinetic energy bounced around within the living compartment of that tank. Even assuming that this does not injure / kill a crew-man or disable some vital piece of equipment wouldn’t you expect the next reaction of anything less than a Crack crew to be: ‘Lets get the hell out of there” ? Think about it. Your sitting in a big target being shot at by an unseen enemy with a weapon capable of blasting holes in the armour separating you from him. By the grace of God, you survived the first hit, but you know dam well that they are stuffing another shell into that gun just as fast as they can. What would YOU do ? Given the caveat of limited experience derived from the demo, I would like to respectfully suggest that the speed and frequency with which vechles are abandoned seems to be too low. I know grogs will cite cases where Finish light tanks were pierced by no less than sixty-three 76mm rounds and still went on to rout three divisions of infantry armed only with half a bottle of Aquavit and a small pair of nail scissors, but I would suggest that these cases were written up by the regimental historian precisely because they were uncommon. I would even dare to suggest that the vast majority of Finnish light tanks were probably abandoned after only the thirty or fortieth penetration. Thoughts ?

Any of the currently shipping Mac's should be fine....