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  1. Originally posted by J_Powell:

    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Andreas:

    Better than 6th Army by not breaking out. 6th Army lost 100% of its men, while Napoleon managed to salvage something.

    Oh, cmn! That is absolutly uncomparable :D

    A little more luck near Stalingrad and Moskow et voila, "1000 years reich" would be a real redface.gif / </font>

  2. Originally posted by J_Powell:

    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Andreas:

    Better than 6th Army by not breaking out. 6th Army lost 100% of its men, while Napoleon managed to salvage something.

    Oh, cmn! That is absolutly uncomparable :D

    A little more luck near Stalingrad and Moskow et voila, "1000 years reich" would be a real redface.gif / </font>

  3. Originally posted by Andreas:

    Well - so riddle me this. How many more men could 6th Army have lost if they had tried?

    I agree with you totally on this. 6th Army should have attempted a breakout...

    First Paulus refuses to break the Führer's orders then he decides he can break the Führer's orders. I don't have too much respect for him as a commander. Tens of thousands of his troops died in captivity while he led a somewhat nice life in Soviet hands. You would think a man of his reputation would want to go where his troops were and continue to lead them, even in the Gulags.

    "History gives a simple and unkind verdict on Friedrich Paulus: gifted Staff officer, uninspired commander, an unquestioning general of the 'orders-are-orders' type....He never questioned Nazism and was willing to do almost anything ordered by Hitler. Finally, when the fate of a quarter of a million men rested in his hands, he 'froze' and did little but let events take their course to the complete destruction of his army and the miserable deaths of most of his soldiers." (Middlebrook, 372).
  4. Originally posted by Leopard_2:

    Erm... wasn't Paulus ordered to hold out, so to bind enemy forces that otherwise would have been free to hunt Heeresgruppe Süd?

    (Just from memory right here, but this thread is the first time I read about Paulus deciding to stay put!)

    Paulus was also ordered, directly from the Führer, not to surrender and to fight to the last man. Of course, he chose not to follow that order...
  5. From what I have read of the Tiger, it had some problems dealing with snow, and IIRC, "Wintergewitter" was carried out during a blizzard.

    However, the Germans did pierce the outside ring of Soviet defenses and the 6th Army might have been able to fight its way towards Manstein's relief force, but, alas, Paulus refused to do so unless ordered by the Führer, sealing the fate of some 90,000 troops, over 2,000 officers and a couple dozen generals. I think only a few thousand of these men survived Soviet captivity long enough to ever see Germany again.

    Paulus got a pretty good deal, though.

    BTW, Manstein was in overall command of the relief offensive from his "Army Group Don," but you are right that Hoth was in command of three Panzer divisions entitled "Panzer group Hoth" or somesuch.

    It was, IMHO, the most fascinating battle of the second world war.

  6. Originally posted by CSO_Talorgan:

    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Bigduke6:

    Absolutely. The Red Army would have become the proud owners of the entire Tiger inventory.

    ... Meaning they would have been able to fight their way in to Stalingrad, but would not have been able to hold open a corridor for 6th Army to escape through and would have been out of fuel and ammo?

    Judging by responses, you guys are obviously way ahead of me in your knowledge of this period, but of I don't ask, I won't learn.

    Wasn't Von Paulus fobidden from breaking out? </font>

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  8. Hello

    Me and 7 friends would like to run a little CMBB tourney. I came here to get some advice on the best ways to go about it.

    I was going to use some scenarios from the ROW III tourney. I have played none of them and I do not think anyone else in the group has.

    How should it work, round robin? single elim?

    should each scenario be played by each player as each side.

    Any help would be appreciated.

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