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Artkin, it is a known bug. I guess BFC will fix it when it fixes it.

Whatever the last one is. Engine 4.

The drones are there. They are mostly for observation purposes. You can call arty using them. There is some fictional equipment that did not exist in 2017 - like APS on Bradleys and Abrams, Russian T-90am (with 0 rarity!) that just got in service a couple of years ago etc. It was a wild guess back on 2013-2015. But for the most it is accurate.

You are right. Not sure why I thought that T-72B3M was in the game. Sorry.

Yes, i know. That's why i asked. U am curious if anyone had a chance to compare. One thing that i noticed is that t-90am spots better with the presence of a zala drone

I found an article that states that the FCS and thermal sights are about the same in both models. The difference is that since R-90AM has a bigger turret the sensors are positioned more compactly and the tank profile is lower than T-72B3M. I will do some testing and see if i see any difference in spotting.

Hm. Different sources state that T-72B3M should have the same CITV as T-90M. In fact there seems to be very little difference between the two tanks.

Thank you!

Yes. I want to know how they differ in game especially in terms of spotting. From my perspective if they spot the same the extra points for T-90am could be used elsewhere. Do you have experience using them in CMBS?

Does anybody know what are the differences between T-90am and T-72B3M for the purposes of CMBS? The former costs about 70 points more and I am curious if it is worth spending those points on T-90am or better use them elsewhere. The most important question is does anyone know if T-90am spots better? Please, leave all the political discussions out of this thread. Thank you.

No. It is there in all versions.

@c3K, do you have any idea when this will be fixed? It is a game breaking bug for CMBS as far as I am concerned. The only Russian tank that actually can spot anything has a super fragile front hull armor. they don't have to wait for the whole patch release, you know, to fix this.

Please, let's take the political discussion out of this thread. This thread is about representation of T-90 in CMBS. Please, focus on that.

Let's not turn this into a discussion what Russia will or will not do and how in the future regarding its military. Let's focus on the very specific subject - CMBS.

What rebuilding? They have about 2800 tank in active service (half of them are T-72 variants) and another 10000 in reserve. If you look at what they use and what they lose it is outdated old models and old ammunition from 70- tirs and 80-ties. That is what the US did in Iraq in 91. They pretty much used the bombs that they had in storage from the Vietnam era. Loosing 300 T-71B3M will not even make a dent in their armor.

https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Т-14 Under the production tab there is the whole history. As if Dec 24 2021 they claim to starting the serial production and 20 T-14 were delivered end of last year. But then, since that is Russia there is no way to confirm that

That's old news. They ordered 100 tanks to be delivered in 2022. They decided against ordering 2000+as they originally planned but they did not kill the tank.

Actually, not sure where the 17.14M EUR number came from. The article stated that 405 Puma costed 3bn EUR which makes it approximately 7.41M EUR per unit or about 8.5M USD (same as Abrams tank). Maybe some people are not good at first grade math. Again, not sure why not just buy American M2s or Abrams instead.

That is one expensive IFV vehicle. I wonder what technologies they use in it. Look, there are always exceptions and adjustments. Frankly speaking Germans probably would be better off just buying Bradleys in this case and ditching Pumas all together. I wonder how many of those they export and who buys them.

It is unclear. Usually Russian military provides as little details as possible. I am surprised that they even told the journalist that there were (was) T-90M on trials in 2017. The example of this is the question of the gun that T-90M carries. There are already serial T-90M in the army and yet no exact information about the gun it has. The Russian wiki page lists both guns with reference to different sources as mounted on T-90AM to which it claims T-90M is a next step iteration. T-14 is not rejected. There is an order for 100 tanks that should be delivered in 2022. It's just it won't be the core tank in the Russian army. My guess is that each battalion will have 1 or 2 of those, 5-8 T-90M and the rest will be T-90A and T-72BM3. And they will be replacing/upgrading the T-90A and T-72BM3 to T-14 and T-90M at a rate of 3-4 tanks in a battalion per year. That's my guess.

I am a native Russian speaker. The article was talking about a test sample but it never said that there was only one.

Finally i found some info about T-90-AM. https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Т-90АМ It lists both guns as available for T-90AM and it claims that T-90M is the next step on evolution of T-90AM. It is unclear how many T-90AM were manufactured. From the way it looks Russian army will have 1-2 Armatas per a battalion as a command vehicle with some T-15 for support, 5-8 T-90M and the rest will be a mix of T-90A and T-72B3M. With them replacing 3-4 per year with T-14 and T-90M.

Well for one, M1A2SEP should be at least 2.5 more than T-90A. And if feel like that in the game too - spotting, armor, accuracy is much much better for Abrams. T-90AM feels and operates a bit better. Now the point difference is about 1.5 That's just to low. 2.5 times would be a good stating point. I am sure one can find the prices for small arms in different catalogs and compare them.

I don't see where it says that there was only one sample. Obviously what they had in September 2017 was not a production unit. The Russian army started receiving them only in late 2020, i believe. I am not even sure if now there are any if them in Ukraine. From the pictures it looks like the Russians are fielding upgraded T-72 and some T-90As, really old stuff. But that is beyond the point. For example APS Trophy was not even tested on Abrams until 2020 from what i read. And yet it is in the game.

That is a strange argument. The price of a particular unit does not depend on the countries need. If they have a budget and a need they buy it if not they don't. At these days the price is mostly driven by new technologies be that new sensors, new software, new materials etc. The more expensive the unit is the better is the technology (for the most part). Taht is a direct way to compare unit. Otherwise is all super empirical and much more subjective.