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Wow, judging by the tone of this thread, I guess that I shouldn't be surprised about the absence of discussion of the CRU documents here. Keep that head firmly implanted in your fourth point of contact.

Except that Chicago has 2 major newspapers, the Tribune is seen as traditionally a conservative and Republican bent, and the Sun Times as the Democratic paper. True, one of his associates appears to have copped $97,000 for personal use, and not his senatorness. However, the affair reflects poorly on the man's judgement, and "knack" for "change".

...another Obama scandle the national and international press will ignore: My notes: Englewood a notoriously poor and crime ridden neighborhood, barely a few square kilometers, yet claiming a disproportianite share of the city's crime.

What's there to find? One of my friends told me that at the end of WWII, crates of new equipment werer buried on the sites of many army bases...as some of these former bases are now state parks.... Finding a crate of buried garands, without risk of blowing myself to kingdom come is something that has me interested in this topic.

I seem to recalll that you need to be E5 (though I think you can do so while an E4, as long as you are eligible to be promoted to E5) to volunteer for SF in the Army, and you can volunteer for the Rangers in Airborne school (and I don't believe there are any rank restrictions). In any case, to be in SF, you need to have some tread worn on your boots so to speak AIUI. As far as Force Recon goes, when I went to Jungle Warfare School in Panama, I recall seeing some Recon Marines (I think they were), among them some E-2 privates with Scuba bubbles.

You are just as far out of line as CoFarmer is.

I'm curious as to how the posters that are shocked would have handled this man, and what they would have done to prevent recidivism (or if he was a taliban/al qaeda, a return to arms). Compare and contrast: What would have his fate been if this man had been in N. Ireland and IRA? What would have his fate been if a Palestinian, in Isreal? I imagine he probably will get off with a few years time at most. Where's the horror in that?

I just traded in my '07 Ranger XLT/2.3L/manual 5spd (which I bought in 2006) for a F150 SLX 4x4/4.6L today. I've been thinking about all the obscene rebates and incentives Ford has on the F series and I was thinking it would be a crime not to get one. MSRP was ~$33000 After discounts and rebates, my new F150 went home with me for $19500 (exclusive of trade-in) I blame this thread and forum for planting the idea in my head to do so...

When you view this in the context of the fact that they knew that: A Russian Armored column was at various times heading for, in, and crossed, the Roki tunnel -and- Commando raid on bridge, which purportedly destroyed 15 armored vehicles and delayed the Russian column 24-48 hours. -and- Air strike on the tunnel mouth on the Georgia side. After you see that, you get to what the Georgians may have been thinking: 1. We destroy the Roki tunnel, cutting the Russians 'peacekeepers' off from reinforcement 2. We pound the piss out of them with artillery So, the questions are: Is that the best plan they could come up with in 24-48 hours? Let's say the Georgians were able to seal the tunnel, were they expecting the Russian force to roll over and surrender after an artillery barrage? Why didn't they AT mine the roads too? Why doesn't Georgia have any AT weapons? I would love someone to lay out a time line of all of these events, so we can see if it all lines up. -When was the failed air strike on the tunnel? -When was the raid to blow the bridge? -Was the artillery barrage before or after the Russians emerged on the Ossetian side of the tunnel???

By no means as colorful as your 'painter, public speaker and charity worker', a former high-school classmate, and former little-league baeball team mate who is quite a piece of work himself: http://www.skcentral.com/news_by_cat.php?cat_id=75 I believe he still has an upcoming date with the hangman

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/georgia/2570754/Georgia-conflict-How-a-flat-tyre-took-the-Caucasus-to-war.html Interesting article on the start of this whole disaster: It also hints at a ground operation to attack the Kurta bridge, in conjunction with the Roki tunnel air attack.

Big Duke- I read a comment about "baltic mercenaries" being used by the Georgians...any word on that? Aside from that, it would be interesting getting a post with any rumors, fables or urban legend stuff going around, just to get a feel for how things are going over there

I think that was a general statement regarding women, and what they chase after, and less a judgement of your friend

Ain't that the truth.

Dames co-founded his RV company with Ingo Swann. Isn't Ingo the man when it comes to RV?

One thing is for sure, is that it is going to be interesting to see how this all came about. If Saakashvili expected a measured and restrained response from Putin, he must have been smoking something. The entire affair looks like there was no preparation done from the Georgian side (example: emergency pullout of troops from Iraq). From the Russian side, there is nothing but atrocity and genocide stories, and there appears to be an orchestrated propaganda effort underway (I got a rare chuckle from that War Nerd article where he talks about where he was told to be sympathetic to the Russians, and his last paragraph was surely put there to pass some sort of censorial muster.) Did Saakashvili and Georgia simply "step in it"? No doubt Russia has been provoking them recently, but are the Georgians that stupid to think that they could wrest these disputed areas away from the Russians by force? I am not sure I can buy that on the face of it.

I checked my local Ural dealer, and they also carry Royal Enfields: Looks like the Urals start at $12000. The Ural site says both the Patrol and Gear Up have 2 wheel drive though. What are the other differences are?

She should try looking up some Baltic pagan symbols, as the Danes, Poles and Latvians are all in that area. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dievtur%C4%ABba What about getting a "Veni Vedi Veci" tattoo?

I'll have to try the carmelized onion thing. I didn't want anything identifiable as an onion in this batch, as my daughter does not like onions. If she cant see them, she won't know its in the sauce On a food-quality related question, does anyone have any tips on buying high quality Olive Oil? How can you tell when Olive Oil is "fresh" or "rancid" before you buy it?

I was experimenting today, after having bought a load of fresh veggies from farms in SW Michigan yesterday (including some onions as big as softballs) making some marinara. The tomatoes were beefsteaks, which I was a bit apprehensive about- unneccessarily as it turned out. I took several tomatoes, threw em in a blender, and into the crockpot. Took half a head of the fresh, farm bought garlic, put the cloves (about 6 or 7) through the garlic press. Tossed that into a pan with some EVOO, low-med heat til it turned gold. Threw that into the crockpot. It was looking a bit pink and soupy now, so I added a couple cans of tomato paste. Now it was a bit too thick, so I poured a scotch glass full of water in it. Threw a bit of red pepper powder, a swig of black pepper (not too much), some salt, a bit of oregeno, a bit of chopped basil, and a single bay leaf. Took one of the gargantuan onions, and put it to a grater and added it. At this point, I looked at the bag of beautiful, fresh, gargantuan onions and thought to myself that I needed to put another onion in it. So I cut another giant sweet onion up, tossed into the blender, and added it to the crock pot. Cooked it on low for 4 or 5 hours, and OMFG, it is awesome. The sweet onions add the sweet part to the sauce, without having to use sugar. I completley hit the nail on the head with this one.

Only $230-$300 a pop. The only difference I can tell is that this one filters to 3 decimal places: 99.999% of bad microorganisms. Would it also filter out gasoline, oil, fertilizer, feces?

I know, but I couldn't resist starting a thread with a title that matched the Russian Tanks invade Georgia. Thought I'd have some fun with it

JK- Do you listen to Coast to Coast AM at all? Isn't the whole RV thing with Maj. Ed Dames almost a running joke on that program? As he and his team of remote viewers have never had a success with any of the things they said they were going to RV on the show? I recall hearing George Noory on the air commenting on the validity of RV and how he may drop RV from the show as they had never delivered.

Looked a bit further. Apparently, these guys are not just your run of the mill re-enactors. http://www.2ndpanzerdivision.com/index.htm They are elite re-enactors

Looks like there is a group around Chicago which does the 2nd Pzr that has a Hetzer, and "several" 251's http://www.wiking.org/topics/roster.htm