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P.S. Is CM:AK a good game? Never been much of a fan of the desert myself... quite frankly I find it to be objectionably dry. But is it a fun enough game that someone like me would enjoy it?

I was an avid player of CMBO and CMBB back in the day. I remember regularly playing PBEM and eventually internet matches against other people and even winning probably a majority of the time. Well, I stopped playing at somepoint (2003 maybe?) and have recently returned. Suffice it to say, my skills have eroded. I fired up the Cracking the Egg scenario and was thoroughly trounced by the AI. My question is, what is it that I've forgotten how to do, and how may I relearn it? Did I simply play a particularly difficult scenario? I wasn't able to use my Russian assault guns because the Tigers took them out from a very long range. I didn't knock out a single enemy tank. How does one go about defeating the AI in this scenario? Also, I was hoping some folks could give me a couple of refreshers on tactics. How far forward should my infantry be in front of my tanks? How appropriate is it to fire smoke rounds/artillery? Is this something that should, for authenticity, be used sparingly? What formations are appropriate for infantry companies (ie. how to array, and what distance should separate the platoons)?? When moving a platoon or a company into close contact with the enemy, how much supporting fire is generally recommended? Oh, and when laying down a cover arc, does a unit fire on enemy units that come into that arc? I had mixed results with it during the scenario. Thanks for answering my questions, and if there any other hints or tips you all would care to share, I would be extremely appreciative.

Oh man, there was SO a thread on this a little while ago. It got weird. I hope it doesn't get like that now. And I won't tell you to search for it, because I don't personally believe in it myself. Never have, never will search. Thanks, Jim

Don't worry ntg84. You're not the only one experiencing this problem. I never seem to get a break in CM either. It seems that my opponents get all of the luck. Thanks, Jim

Hi! As far as women in CM2, I think it would be alright so long as their appearance would be extremely random, and extremely rare. But, then again, BTS didn't model black people in CM1. I think for them to model women, and not black people, would be discrimination, or something. Confused About Political Correctness, Jim

I see your point, but it doesn't tell the whole story of what kind of atrocious actions these partisans performed. Simple fact was, many of these partisans also stole from and killed their fellow Russians. How is that fighting for their country? Many of them were Soviets, fighting for their party. And in many cases, they were just as brutal, if not more so, than the invading German army. No heroism in that. I'd call them terrorists. Thanks, Jim

Darn!! That is a NICE pic!! Where did you get it from?? I would love to have it!! Thanks, Jim

Thanks for the bump. It's surprising that Jeff makes some good points, and there's still not too much logic, and/or evidence to disprove what he is saying. Tungsten DOES make a big difference, espescially now that there is a BUG, that makes it even MORE EFFECTIVE against the sloped armor of German tanks like the Panther! And if this proves anything, it's the fact that BTS isn't the FINAL word on CM, and the historical accuracty that they are trying to represent. They can just as easily make a mistake as any of us can!! And this tungsten issue just seems like too much of a crapshoot for me to take as 100% historical accuracy. They're saying that they're making a reasonable guess, and some of us are saying that we're making a reasonable guess that their reasonable guess is wrong. And because they're BTS, many people are willing to unflinchingly take what they say as correct, bar-none. Even if Shermans crews started out EVERY MORNING (any proof of that?) with 2 rounds of Tungsten, who's to say that they had those 2 rounds for EVERY single fight?? They could EASILY expend those rounds firing at a tank or two well BEFORE the main battle started, which is the part represented in CM. For tungsten rounds to be so prevalent, and so effective I would like to request a little factual evidence that they were used in such great abundance, and for EVERY battle that they participated in. Thanks, Jim

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Michael Dorosh: Absolutely NOT! Do you have any idea how much fire a tank draws? Or attention? That's the worst place to be! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> But, Michael, he was saying that it was a practiced tactic. And that they portrayed it in the movie very realistically. And really, I think if I were advancing down the middle of a street, those armor plates would be pretty valuable at protecting me from those nasty machine guns. And I think that if your sergeant had told you to walk behind a tank, you would have done it too! What I want to know is, what would have been a better way for the Germans to assualt the town, knowing that they have to actually go through it to reach the bridge? I've heard people say before that the Germans used bad tactics, but what exactly could they have done differently? They couldn't sit and wait there and trade shots at 30m, as I heard someone else saying. Besides, they had numerical superiority. They wanted to exploit that and take out the American soldiers before they recieved reinforcements. What should they have done differently to make the movie more "realistic"? I'd really like to see Spielberg do a movie with realistic tank and infantry combat. I think he could do a nice job with it. Thanks, Jim p.s. I don't really know how often that tactic was used, I just know that I've heard about it more than once on this forum.

Board Game: Axis and Allies Computer Game: Sid Meier s Getttysburg, and a month later, Combat Mission: Beyond Overlord. I know, I've been deprived. Thanks, Jim

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Elijah Meeks: Oh come on people, there is no such thing as good or evil. Those are judgement calls made up to suit the times. One of the amazing things to remember is that before WWII, it was accepted practice to do just what the Nazis did. We Americans (And the British) neutered mentally handicapped people and eugenics was not a dirty word. Wholesale slaughter of people happened ALL THE TIME (Christians in Azerbaijan during WWI being an oft pointed to example). Racism was well established and scientificly backed up. Et cetera, et cetera. WWII made these things evil in popular opinion. It did this because the allies put together a campaign to sway public opinion just as surely as they put together a campaign to defeat the Axis. The result of this was a change in public opinion leading to the emancipation of India, the Civil Rights crusades of the US and the entire political correct movement. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Excellent post Elijah. That's a view that I, and a few others in my old history class held. It takes some advanced thinking to be able to be able to take a stance such as that one, and an ability to NOT just follow the popular concensus. Many people are all too willing to put force their morals and beliefs onto other people, and time periods. In my honest opinion, that is.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by von Lucke: And you'd have to have been here this time last year to be around before I showed up... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Again, I apologize for the misunderstandings we are apparently having, but I was referring to this thread. Not the board... Thanks, Jim

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by patboivin: This is an American game, though. I don't know if that played a part? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> LOL! Yeah, this game and forum does seem to take a bit of a "U-571" slant on things at times!! ------------------ "...you're just jealous that the UK didn't get to join the war before the Americans took Berlin. But, I WILL give credit to where credit is due. If it wasn't for America's almighty industry, we might not have been able to win the war single-handedly. You UK-landers would have been the first people we would have called, though, if we needed some help... or some more tea. We promise."

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rexford: CM slope effect for 76 HVAP vs 47mm armor at 60° is 2.1, U.S. test data results in 4.3 estimate. CM also shows HVAP slope multiplier changing with T/D, firing test data shows that it remains constant. Panther glacis resistance to 76 HVAP will be about twice what CM predicts, 55° slope effect for HVAP should be 3.3. This is something else that needs fixin'.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> So, what you're saying is that Panthers are even awesomer??? That's all you had to say. No need for fancimication by datafying us all with numbers and whatnot. Simple slogans should do the trick... "Forget the Velocity and the Mass, Panthers Should Just Kick More A.." -Rexford ------------------ "...you're just jealous that the UK didn't get to join the war before the Americans took Berlin. But, I WILL give credit to where credit is due. If it wasn't for America's almighty industry, we might not have been able to win the war single-handedly. You UK-landers would have been the first people we would have called, though, if we needed some help... or some more tea. We promise."

And again, that's for HISTORICAL purposes ONLY. Anything dealing with a "balanced" game, between armor forces might need adjusting between the point values. Thanks, Jim