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  1. “HOOK, LINE and SINKER” Got you all! I just wanted to see how many people I could get. Seems like quite a few. I thought, “Ive got nothing of value to add to the discussion, its all been said before, so why not partake in that time honored Aussie tradition of **** stirring” Please take my order for CM2 right now.
  2. Wow, 3 responses from BTS within a couple of hours, I, am honored. Touchy subject? I am not a smart arse, but if a box and all the trimmings aren’t that expensive, why not include them. It would save me from loosing the bloody CD and manual every time my wife cleans up near the computer. Just because you can make a crap load out of it, doesn’t make it right. OPEC seems to have the same mentality at the moment, and they are not the most popular of folk right now. Ah well, when CM2 comes out, ill just have to sell the car and house and one of my kidneys to pay for it
  3. I appreciate the clobering gents. Lorak “Games in the US(new) run between $40-$60 dollars. CM with shipping is $53” What sells for $60 US. That would make it about $110 Aus dollars, nothing in Aus costs that much (game software), maybe you guys are getting ripped off. “and who cares about a box” The point about the box was not so much about not having one, it was more a point to illistrate that production costs for this game would be less then those for something like Theif or a Ultima or any thing that did have a box Hundminen “Ever think about value?” Sure do sun shine, a 911 porsche is good value, doesn’t stop it being expensive though does it? “I have been computer gaming for 8 years now, and typically buying 5 games per year” Well, Mine Dog (isn’t it?), ive been playing games for close to 15 years and I probably buy at least one a month (yes, I dont have a life), and as far as games go, CM is a great game, but it is not the greatest. It, like most computer games are bloody expensive. “So stop yer yelping” WOOF WOOF Jeff Heidman “If, in fact, they are charging too much, then the market will let them know” Take your point, I presume the market will let them know by pirateing their games. As a marketer, would you prefer to ship 20000 units at $30 or 10000 at $45 and have the differnce get pirated copies. This is in no way condoning piracy, but after spending thousands of bucks on crap software, Iam getting a bit jaded over paying high prices for games. Before receiving a follow up artillery bombardment from you all, CM is a great game. Pretty close to, if not the, best wargame ever. But as a game it is not the best computer game ever written (IMHO), but the amount we pay would suggest it is the best game you will ever play.
  4. I am just wondering if any one else (particularly those of us not living in the US) thinks the cost of CM is a little on the steep side. True, the game is a masterpiece, but it still is expensive. When I got my copy 3 months ago, it cost me over $90 Australian. With a lot of currencies in free fall, buying anything from the US is getting prohibitively expensive. If you think about it, what do you get for the money? A User Manual (a good one), a CD and a two to three week delay in being able to play it. What don’t you get? A convenient box to keep both CD and manual together and the convenience of being able to go into a store and buy it off the shelf. Most of this is not real important, but it is still cost that BTS don’t have to put into producing the game, which we are still paying for. I don’t know what $45 US buys you, but I know what I can get for $95 AUS, and how long it takes to earn it. A typical new release in Australia is between $70 and $90. Yeah, a fair proportion of them are crap, but some of them are as good in their genre as CM is in its, and they are not as expensive as CM. Seeing as BTS are getting a much higher proportion of the earnings then a regular publisher, do they have to put such a high price tag on it? If our dollar keeps going in the direction its going, I might be able to export it to the US as a cheep alternative to toilet paper, and with the earnings I get, I may be able to go fifths with 4 others in purchasing CM2, if I start right now.
  5. Does anybody know how BTS are going to handle armor that operated with tactically backward countries like the USSR and the French? Playing the demo reminded me of older sets of rules I played with miniatures where early French vehicles have a field day against inferior armed and armored German AFV's. In the tactical battles portrayed by CM it would appear that Chars and KV1's are going to have a romp against Pz II's and III's.
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