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BFC (Madmatt) already said this will NOT change. Per Charles, It would NOT be an easy coding fix. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, but adding functionality would take tiem away from the engine rewrite. Rune

If you missed it, it is listed under corrections for the patch. The armor is now the same. Thanks guys! Rune

Germans used the Pzgr39 and Pzgr40 modified for the 7.62cm PaK36® L42. This is NOT the standard Russian ammo. Also, the German used cupolas, which increased vision greatly. Looking at the penetration at 60 degrees at 100 meters. Why 60 degrees? Because front armour is either curved or at 60 degrees. The tanks have between 45 and 60mm of armor at 60 degress to the front, depending on the model of the tank. The Russian ammo penetrates 39mm of armor at 60 degrees at 100 meters. The German ammo that was made for the Russian gun penetrates 51mm at 60 degrees. Chamberlain lists the ammo made for the T34 by the Germans as 98 or 135mm at 30 degrees. No conspiracy, no uber German modelling, maybe just a realistic representation? Rune [ November 09, 2002, 05:14 PM: Message edited by: rune ]

If you could in the past connect, and no longer can with the same game, maybe it isn't the game? What exactly is happening? Will try to help you out on this. Rune

also the german version of ammo as opposed to the Russian, also them gamey germans put cupolas on the tanks for better vision. Rune [ November 08, 2002, 09:36 PM: Message edited by: rune ]

I knew i was going to pay for the happy 40th birthday I tossed at the mad one. [He is 34. hehehehe] It is a engine limitation. You STILL can put cannons in houses, but has to be done by the scenario maker. Place the cannon first then add the house. Rune

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I am trying to make a scenario ont he fight on 26 Jan 1943 at Nikolajewka, Russia. The Italian Alphine Corp in the cove trying to break out against the Russians. If anyone has information, please post it, as I want to make a good scenario out of this. Rune

I think it was a typo when the scenarios went thru the testing phase. I doubt there are many more errors. Rune

Yep, and that is the point...the Tiger was an awesome beast when introduced. In actuality, they didn't fare well the first two times out, breaking down or bogging, which is a possibility in the scenario. A tactical victory as Russians is a great outcome. Has anyone done better then that? I would be surprised if they did. And yes, there are times I just want to blow things up...and this is a perfect one to do it in. Rune

Why? Was it fun playing as the Germans? Yes? Then why restrict it? Now play as the Russians and see how you fare. Yes, it was made for the "Tiger is too weak" crowd. Rune

Bab, If you re-do the voices, let me know. With a last name of Orosz, I think you will know why. Rune

Yep...Berli got the sources after i made my first map...where i had the buildings too large and facing the wrong direction. We worked together and witht he map, got the actual sizes of the buildings with help of the map legend. So, I redid my buildings and got them north-south instead of the east-west I originally had. I do not have the board game, this is strictly from the aerial photos and maps Berli got. Rune

Strange, I just looked at my original, and the date on that screen is correct. Must have accidently been changed someplace along the line. It is, of course, 1942. I checked my son's computer also [he made it], and it is set to 1942. Rune

I have a battle of the Warsaw uprising done, but didn't include it on the CD. The one I did was the first uprising, and was made to honor the bravery of those who fought...but I am stillnot sure how people would take it. If you are itnerested in it, let me know and I will forward it to anyone who wants to play it. Rune

Glad you like it...alternate history scenarios canbe a lot of fun. Did one for CMBO and one for CMBB. Rune

Why a withdrawal command? A move command should have been used. A withdrawal command is a full blown get the hell out of dodge command. Page 235 in the manual tells you it is an emergency command and you have a greatly increased chance of panicing. Rune

If you saw the other thread...the buildings are EXACTLY the way they were in real life. Both Berli and I got maps and aerial photos, and i even measured the buildings. My map is a small section of the real thing. Why was it on? It was one of the bloodiest battles that took place. My attack is the initial attack, wwb took my map, and then made a battle much later, when much of the factory is rubble. Also the reason for no trenches...this is the initial assault, before the area waws flattened, and/or reinforced. The battle actually took place, why wouldn't it be on? Play it two player...people had a lot of fun with it, as evidenced at scenario depot. Just becasue you don't like a style, doesn't mean everyone doesn't like it. If you don't want to, fine, as not everyone likes the same style of battle. However, realize there are many different styles of players, who like many different types of terrain. We tried to get on the CD a lot of different style of terrain, and a lot of different styles of play. Rune [ November 02, 2002, 07:45 AM: Message edited by: rune ]

I still assume they were used in tanks, between 1940 and taking 1/2 of the 41 production, you come up with 750000 rounds. Now, looking at the production of the 50mm AT gun. 2 in 1939, 388 in 1940, and 2000 in 1941. Let's assume 1/2 by Barbarossa, so 1400 guns. I cannot believe the German produced so many rounds for so few guns. However, my search for more goes on... Rune

My reply on the scenario can be seen in the scenario forum, under Atlas's thread. Just because one person doesn't like a type of scenario, doesn't mean everyone won't. I wanted and think I accomplished a good mix of scenarios. SPOILERS * * * * * * * * * You obviously haven't finished the scenario. You get more then stugs, and do get things to accomplish the goal. However, the forces are the best my son could find reference to. The over-whelming guns aren't. The better shot T34s have a match. I know in testing people lvoed this one, it forces you to use good tactics to advance.. Not a bad attempt for a 13 year old. The point here, and on the other thread, same as the game. You can't please everyone with every scenario...but we did the best we could and tried to get as close to history as we could. Very few fictional battles on teh CD if you look. Rune [ November 01, 2002, 04:55 PM: Message edited by: rune ]

More information on the Panzer III with the 50mm. http://www.achtungpanzer.com/pz8.htm Page 245, Encyclopedia of German Tanks of World War Two, by Chamberlain and Doyle, 50mm L42 uses the Pzgr 39. Rune [ November 01, 2002, 01:39 PM: Message edited by: rune ]

http://www.wwiivehicles.com/html/germany/guns.html http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/willphelps/Specs-03.htm Both show the 75mm/L24 using a APCBC round. I quote: K. Gr. rot Pz. is listed by some sources as APCBC (Armour Piercing Capped with Ballistic Cap)P34SD-p119 and by others as APC (Armour Piercing Capped) This site shows thousands of rounds made for the 50mm in 1940. Hard to believe none went to the tanks. http://members.tripod.com/~Sturmvogel/GermWeapProd.html Another sire [needs tranlating] that shows the 50mm using pzgr 39. http://www.worldzone.net/art/2dunyasavasi/panzer/panzer3/panzer_iii.htm more information as I find it. Rune

Exactly my point. Look at my tractor works. The map got 5s from two reviewers. However, the buildings were researched, and are the EXACT layout they were in real life. Berli and I got maps and aerial photos, and i actually measured the size of the buildings. If you look, my scenario is a small version of Berli's to the volga operation which is huge. However, the map is average? Sorry, those damn Russians should have made a better factory. The scenarios were not rushed. But for each scenario you think is lousy, someone else will like it. That is my point...scenario reviews are subjective. However, I still thank Admiral Keth and Bigdog. One of my scenarios was downloaded 501 times with 1 review. At least i know 500 people got the scenario. Without the two of them, a lot of scenario would go un-noticed. So, I thank them and all the hard work they put in. Rune

*******The Place, a well guarded hidden complex deep in the woods of Maine. In one of the underground bunkers, the gang at BFC get together******* Charles: The AI is too weak, i must come up with something to balance out the play against gamey human players. Steve: We can give the AI secret power-up locations... Dan interrupts: Not with the power-ups AGAIN!!! Madmatt: [Cracking a Whip] Where is Rune at? Rune: [Hiding behind Moon] He went that way [Points to the left] Why is he here anyway? Moon: [Looks about innocently---well, as innocently as any CEO at a major corporation] Hurry this up, i have to take my plane in for its 3000 mile checkup...in Aruba. Charles: There must be something I can do to really upset the uber-grogs out there. Steve: I have it! Let the AI hit first exactly 1.83% more in the first hit! It will drive them absolutely nuts! ALL: [Evil laughing] Rune: [still hiding from Matt] Jefe' thought of this one, you can increase the penetration factor by Pi divided by the square root of the offset angle of armor multiplied by the thickness of armor, modified by the armor quality, and affected only slightly by the air density and mean operating temperature of the firing gun barrel. I don't know what it means, but that will confuse them all. ALL: Great idea! Aren't you supposed to be working on the scenarios? Madmatt: [Rushes in] There you are Rune! [Cracks the whip] Get back to scenario making. After all, you beta testers aren't testing, just playing... Rune: [slinks away-Whimpering] Yes Master... That is how it went...now you know... Rune

1. Clash of the Titans II, available at Boots and Tracks. Someone will be along to post the web site, i am terrible at the ubb code. 2. There are several battles featuring Minor Countries. Did you play them all? Rune