BloodyBucket Posted November 4, 2002 Share Posted November 4, 2002 And that alone is enough to keep me playing BO! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Manuel Posted November 4, 2002 Share Posted November 4, 2002 Heh...that overrides getting rid of stupid things like Tiger's aiming backwards to shoot at crews 1000m away and platoons running over 300m of open ground to surrender an MG42? [ November 04, 2002, 12:28 PM: Message edited by: Silvio Manuel ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyBucket Posted November 5, 2002 Author Share Posted November 5, 2002 Well, it is something that CMBO has that CMBB doesn't. I just heard that phrase in a game, and got me thinking about how good it will be to see the improvements when the Western front rolls around again. As far as I'm concerned, BB is just another step in the developement of the new CMBO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCupit Posted November 6, 2002 Share Posted November 6, 2002 This thread got me thinking about a the Western and Eastern fronts. Are the people here, in an overall and general way, more interested in the events surrounding the western front in france than in the Russian front? I know I am much more interested in the events of Normandy and beyond than anything that happened in Russia, but then I come from England so I guess it only natural. What about anyone else? Jeremy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Talker Posted November 6, 2002 Share Posted November 6, 2002 The Eastern Front holds no interest for me at all. I can't get enough of The Bulge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Posted November 6, 2002 Share Posted November 6, 2002 As I live in France, I prefer western front too. I enjoy visit battle-sites in Normandy. CMBB seems very interesting but my vision of the eastern front is quite confusing... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nippy Posted November 6, 2002 Share Posted November 6, 2002 "Chew on this pineapple, Fritz!" "Na suka, na!" I'll take T-34's and JS-2s over Shermans and Churchills any day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Moore Posted November 7, 2002 Share Posted November 7, 2002 Originally posted by JeremyCupit: This thread got me thinking about a the Western and Eastern fronts. Are the people here, in an overall and general way, more interested in the events surrounding the western front in france than in the Russian front? I know I am much more interested in the events of Normandy and beyond than anything that happened in Russia, but then I come from England so I guess it only natural. What about anyone else? JeremyI am interested in both theaters thanks to taking a WW2 class at university here in the U.S. Though the majority of the time was spent on the U.S. war effort in Europe and the Pacific the class definitely piqued my interest about The Russian Front...oh, and my roommate got me to play Advanced Squad Leader/Beyond Valor/Streets of Fire (Russian front)! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soddball Posted November 7, 2002 Share Posted November 7, 2002 I prefer the Western Front - I find it much more interesting - but I'm still playing CM:BB and loving it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epée Posted November 7, 2002 Share Posted November 7, 2002 "Umri gad! Mat' tvou!" (Die snake! F... your mother!) East front. It is the mutha beautiful front. Epée [ November 07, 2002, 07:23 AM: Message edited by: Epée ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Steiner Posted November 8, 2002 Share Posted November 8, 2002 Western Front is OK, but the East is where the titanic battles were. The battle of Kursk, for example, makes Normandy look like a circus sideshow in comparison. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt. Ryan Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 When a German tank KO's a Russian tank in CMBB the commander shouts "Gouda Shoes!" I'm not really sure what that means, but it must be some sort of German insult. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McAuliffe Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 Originally posted by Code Talker: The Eastern Front holds no interest for me at all. I can't get enough of The Bulge.HeHe..looks like there is another addict around 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Talker Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 HeHe..looks like there is another addict around Oh yeah!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevsharr Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 Even though I'm an american I must admit that I consider that the war was won on the eastern front.If the german's had been able to defeat the russian's that would have freed up large forces and we had our hand's full with the sixty or so div. we allready were facing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strontium Dog Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 Originally posted by Pvt. Ryan: When a German tank KO's a Russian tank in CMBB the commander shouts "Gouda Shoes!" I'm not really sure what that means, but it must be some sort of German insult. I think it's probably this: "guter Schuß" which means "good shot" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt. Ryan Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 Originally posted by Strontium Dog: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Pvt. Ryan: When a German tank KO's a Russian tank in CMBB the commander shouts "Gouda Shoes!" I'm not really sure what that means, but it must be some sort of German insult. I think it's probably this: "guter Schuß" which means "good shot"</font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen. Sosaboski Posted November 12, 2002 Share Posted November 12, 2002 Yes, the British have some great lines in CMBO... "Stick that one in your pipe, Fritz!" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Commissar Posted November 12, 2002 Share Posted November 12, 2002 CMBO insult lines were cheesy (pineapples? WTF?!). CMBB on the other hand reminds me of day to day exchanges between my brother and I, lol. East front is where it is at. The greatest battles, the most amazing machinery, the greatest sacrifices. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyBucket Posted November 12, 2002 Author Share Posted November 12, 2002 On a human scale, the sacrifices on both fronts are beyond my ability to comprehend, and I think it is silly to compare one to the other. On the Vastness meter, Eastfront wins hands down. On the Inhumanity meter, the Eastfront wins, but one could argue that the take no prisoners fighting of the Pacific was worse. I just like the Western theater because of the cast of characters, the fact that my father fought there (28th ID) and the simple reason that I am more familiar with it. To each his own. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werewolf Posted November 14, 2002 Share Posted November 14, 2002 Originally posted by JeremyCupit: This thread got me thinking about a the Western and Eastern fronts. Are the people here, in an overall and general way, more interested in the events surrounding the western front in france than in the Russian front? I know I am much more interested in the events of Normandy and beyond than anything that happened in Russia, but then I come from England so I guess it only natural. What about anyone else? JeremyI prefer West Front battles. I liken east front battles to a slug fest between a very smart street fighter and a brutal thug who only knows one way to fight - pound and keep pounding until your opponent is dead or you are. The west front I liken to a boxing match between two very skilled opponents. I prefer the boxing match. Werewolf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monwar Posted September 15, 2003 Share Posted September 15, 2003 Though I am yet to play CMBB, it's the Eastern Front that defines the Second World War for me. Stalingrad, Kursk, Kharkov, Sevastopol, Leningrad, Moscow, Kirovograd, Tallinn, Kiev, Budapest, Warsaw, Berlin, Belgorod, Minsk, Orel, Novgorod, Cherkassy, Riga, Koenigsberg - these names, they aren't just battles. These are examples of how low greed and malice can take human beings and shows our proficiency in killing each other. It's grim, but it's true. It's WAR! There was, and probably never will be (at least for a long time) a theatre like the Eastern one. It's just an unbelievable story of human suffering (and human determination), heroicity (and cowerdice), cruelity and desperation. 26 million people - JUST IMAGINE! To me, West Front was a PICNIC compared to the Eastern Front (don't get offended, I'm just trying to emphasize) and that's why I play it (much lighter entertainment). It will take a lot of heart to play CMBB (especially when you've read about the eastern front battles - I have CMBB and still don't play it). I am not yet ready to reduce it to just tactical level battles. It was much more than that, a grim nightmare, no less. The sewers of Stalingrad, the 700,000 dead of Leningrad, the trenches of Kursk, the ice-cold river-crossing at Cherkassy - ... (it can't be expressed in language - just too horrible). One of my most favorite visual images of WW2 is the Don Cossacks cutting off the SS (Wiking) at Gniloi Tikich. Up and down the ravine they pursued the broken Germans, slashing and hacking, revenge for a ravaged land, raped wife and dead children! Can the Western Front provide ONE such emotional scene? Can it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted September 15, 2003 Share Posted September 15, 2003 Originally posted by Werewolf: I prefer West Front battles. I liken east front battles to a slug fest between a very smart street fighter and a brutal thug who only knows one way to fight - pound and keep pounding until your opponent is dead or you are. The west front I liken to a boxing match between two very skilled opponents. I prefer the boxing match. Werewolf :confused: :confused: :confused: The Americans, British, Canadians and other allies relied on "pounding until your opponent is dead" just as much as the Russians. Witness repeated frontal assaults (Verrieres Ridge comes to mind), the massive use of artillery and tactical airpower, and really very few tales of "tactical finesse", unless you have some to share with us? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crank_GS Posted September 16, 2003 Share Posted September 16, 2003 and a battle is better won by "tactical finesse" than by other means? Maybe in CM, but IRL the win is all that counts. IRL, I would bring every tube and tactical bird into play as much as possible. Pound the bajabbers out of the opposition, then let my grunts walk across... You Bet! Finesse, schminesse. CM is a whole 'nother story though... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted September 16, 2003 Share Posted September 16, 2003 Originally posted by Crank_GS: and a battle is better won by "tactical finesse" than by other means? Maybe in CM, but IRL the win is all that counts. IRL, I would bring every tube and tactical bird into play as much as possible. Pound the bajabbers out of the opposition, then let my grunts walk across... You Bet! Finesse, schminesse. CM is a whole 'nother story though... Exactly. Use guns instead of men. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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