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My nephew Mark saw something about this on TV where he lives and managed to track down a link.

http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20080626/BREAKING/638413900/1661

Anyone know what this is? Interestingly, it turns out we were both blown away when we first learned about the living fossil that is the coelacanth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coelacanth

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John Kettler

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I've been an amateur marine biologist and a volunteer aquarist for years and I've never seen a skeleton like that. It looks vaguely like a flathead or snakehead. It looks like the jaw is missing too.

Of course, with that said, there's still incredibly little we know about the ocean. I wish I could see better pics of it, with a sense of scale as well (the kids don't help).

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Here's more info.

http://levelbeyond.com/2008/07/02/mystery-bones-from-longboat-key/

This says there was still flesh on the thing when found. Any bets it wasn't saved? Note the much better skull pic accompanying article. Skull weight seems so large, I'm wondering if it isn't a typo.

http://www.koaa.com/aaaaaa_down_to_earth/x471792746/Bones-of-mysterious-sea-creature-wash-ashore

More comprehensive versions of the finding story.

http://shstage.ny.publicus.com/article/20080627/NEWS/806270380

http://www.allenamerican.com/articles/2008/06/29/breaking_news/43.txt

Hi-res critter video after commercial here. One segment has an adult female in frame, which should help on size comparisons.

http://www.kalb.com/index.php/news/article/video-mystery-bones/9608/

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John Kettler

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Taxidermists use acid to remove the flesh from the bones. A friend of my brothers who was an amateur stuffer drank some, they don't know if it was on purpose or not. He died a few hours later.

So yeah, it's likely there's no flesh left for DNA purposes unless the stuffer thought on and I think testing would have been mentioned in the article.

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Yeah, that's not a 30lb skull.

I still have no idea what it is. Those spikes are pretty big, so they'd probably protrude from the skin, and they look like they're pretty even in length down the whole body. That skull, though, doesn't strike me as a fish skull. It does look kind of reptilian, but that doesn't jive with the rest of the skeleton for known species.

It'll probably end up being something really obvious, but damned if I know.

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Backbone is definitely fish:

http://www.sportsmanschoice.com/A%20Note%20Worth%20Reading/encyclopedia/lr000531.gif

Backbone to head configuration seems similar to a billfish:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/Swordfish_skeleton.jpg

Shape of skull itself? I still think it could be a partial billfish skull or something similar. There are definitely significant parts missing.

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Anybody remember the Piltdown Man?

Michael

I think many have read about it, but personal experiences and recollections about it, no.

Though, you did cross the pond already before the 1900's, didn't you? Old country and sorts?

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You think this is a pasted together hoax too?

Do I think that? Not yet. But in all the speculation flying around, it's a possibility that should be kept in mind. Much closer to our own time, a decade or two back there was a Chinese archeological hoax centered on a supposed missing link between reptiles and birds discovered in the Gobi Desert.

Michael

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Michael Emrys,

Java Man was also a crock, but this thing was apparently found with all the pieces connected, not to mention some flesh still on it. Not so in the case of the the infamous Piltdown Man.

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John Kettler

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