Marco Bergman Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 nebelwerfer.zip Grey textures included in the zip file. Poesel, there's something funny about the lighting on these parts. It's like they're illuminated in reverse - from bottom, not top, and from the other side to the rest of the model. Does that make sense? Anyway, I've worked around it. If the shading bothers you too much you could always tweak the models I guess, but you may be happy with these as is. Redcon, you are going to send SRM files, right? Until then, on to the radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poesel Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 These look great, thanks a lot! About the lighting: is that a an attribute of the model? I thought the model held no lighting information? If I'm wrong here I'll have do redo all of the models. The lamp type to use would probably a sun, right? How do you do the greenish panel icon? Is that soemthing you do manually or an automatic filter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Bergman Posted October 9, 2007 Author Share Posted October 9, 2007 Originally posted by poesel71: How do you do the greenish panel icon? Is that soemthing you do manually or an automatic filter? PanelBackground.png Manual, of course. But simple. 1) Take a screenshot (on nice contrasting terrain to make cutting out the outline nice and simple.) 2) resize to 256x256 3) insert PanelBackground.png as new layer (60% opacity) 4) on base layer, select terrain, delete. Using same selection on PanelBackground, also delete. 5) set base layer to 0% saturation (ie grey), +30% contrast, sharpen. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaytoniousRex Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Marco, you brilliant, wonderful, genius! Outstanding as always. The models probably have their vertex normals backwards. Poesel do you have a "flip normals" option in your modelling program? Are you using Blender? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poesel Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Yes and yes. The normals are pointing outwards which AFAIK should be correct. I'll flip them and see if it makes a difference. Btw theres no light source at all in the model. But since I don't export light sources that shouldn't be a problem or am I mistaken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Bergman Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 Clay, when are you going to give me the remapped viper model with a properly mapped texture, please? Been waiting for, oh, maybe a year now... Also, what is the story with the panel pictures of the AA and ground turrets? I tried again to change those to the new shape, and find that first, they're still both using the same texture, and second, they don't seem to be using the texture in the data folder :confused: Is that possible? Are those hard coded, or using a funny name? (Although I searched all through the textures for a duplicate without finding it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poesel Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Thanks Marco, now I'm not feeling so alone anymore... Clay, you were spot on with the normals, they have to be the other way round. I'll change that in all CZ models. For all other Blender users: the small blue lines have to be INSIDE the model. Then the shading looks right. I don't know why the lines have to be so darn small but maybe I will find out eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Bergman Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 Originally posted by poesel71: Clay, you were spot on with the normals, they have to be the other way round. I'll change that in all CZ models.Poesel, please let me know when the nebelwerfer files are done and where I can get them, because I'll have to adjust the textures a bit. (They'll be too bright now.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcon-5 Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Originally posted by Marco Bergman: Redcon, you are going to send SRM files, right? Until then, on to the radio. SRM? rifle, launcher, or both? It will be a day or two before I can get to it, sorry, real life and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poesel Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Marco, the updated files are here: http://dropteam.johalla.de/download/90mm http://dropteam.johalla.de/download/RA-M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Bergman Posted October 11, 2007 Author Share Posted October 11, 2007 Originally posted by Redcon-5: The Thor T KC-L is done. it is just a thor chassis with a modded cutter plow on it. Also the ATGM squad launchers. And if you get really bored the sniper rifle and RTO radio pack could use some dressing up. Well you asked Okay, so that's actually ATGM squad launcher, sorry. Is no rush whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Bergman Posted October 16, 2007 Author Share Posted October 16, 2007 Originally posted by poesel71: Marco, the updated files are here: http://dropteam.johalla.de/download/90mm http://dropteam.johalla.de/download/RA-M Interesting look, but possibly not quite what was intended? However, I can confirm that the shading works correctly now. I will redo the brightness based on this version, but you might want to reposition the turret... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poesel Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 Uuups, maybe inverted too much? I'll fix that this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poesel Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Sorry, not finished yet. I've some issues with the tilting of the launcher and I need some feedback from Clay. Another thing is the normals: while letting the normals point INTO the models makes the lighting in DT correct the model does look weird in Blender - all textures can only be seen from the inside. Since I don't think Blender would do something so basic as showing textures wrong there are only two possibilities: 1) Blenders export is faulty 2) DTs import is faulty Unfortunatly I don't have another program at hand that can import .obj I can't test that. Could/Would someone else do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcon-5 Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 gameSpace light is free from Caligari. It is limited what it can do. But it will import .obj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Haynes Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 I wonder if DTs import is faulty - I get the same issue (inverted normals) when I export OBJs from Blender for use in DropTeam. I usually flip the normals just before export to get the right effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poesel Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 Ok, I've imported the (from Blender) exported .obj files into gameSpace and they look wrong. Invert the normals (in gameSpace) and everything is correct again. So my conclusion is that DTs import function is at fault here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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