Gérard Le Poer Trench Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 you bet I do. Now playing as Japan and conquered China, India, Indonesia, Australia, New Zealand and all those Islands in the atlantic. Almost a thousand divisions. Look to the lands there and you will see how it works. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartknock3r Posted June 10, 2006 Author Share Posted June 10, 2006 Thanks for those planes you two, and thanks for some of your ideas, very interesting. I havent had time to work on my mod bcuz finals are coming up, and then im going on vacation with my parents, so my work on this will be VERY sluggish until a month later. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ships but not the Ocean Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 I am having a couple of problems with my mod so far. I am having trouble finding out exactly how many divisions the UK used in India (Indian Corps plus others). I want to set up supply on the small islands, but it seems wrong to put a dock at both ends of every single one. I could edit the bitmaps for docks to make them less out of place (beaches maybe) but then you would still be able to repair a ship almost anywhere... The other problem I am having is army sizes. In the East it seems the individual army sizes were smaller than in the west (for instance, Japan had only 460,000 troops in China / Manchuria in 1941, but in over 50 divisions. Their armies were only 1 or 2 divisions) by the end of the war, they had 12 times this number. The US only committed 28 divisions the the theatre. Chinese armies (4 divisions+) were equal to japanese divisions in manpower, so its very confusing... The other problem is that it was rare for entire divisions, let alone corps, to fight as one in the island battles. If the smallest unit I can use is corps, assigning troops to all the islands is going to be nearly impossible... Any ideas? I could use divisions sized corps, but that might become too much for the player... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retributar Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 I have tried to find out about Japanese troop deployment's in the Pacific, but so far, no luck...and im not giving up!. Too much European War history and not too much on the Pacific War is the problem!. Anyway, here are some pic's for 'Unit Bit-Map creation' if so desired!. http://www.figarti.com/Catalog/WWII_Pacific_Theatre/Japanese%20Forces Just found a bit of information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Japanese_Army http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Armies_of_the_Japanese_Army Allied landings - August 1942 to August 1945 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:US_landings.jpg If you require a Much-Larger MAP...then goto http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:US_landings.jpg ...and select "Download high resolution version (2000x1363, 436 KB)". I had the larger-map posted here...but, it was causing the forum here to be elongated by approximately 50%[Making easy reading and negotiation of this site a non-happening situation],...so i have replaced it with a reduced size version of that map!. http://www.anesi.com/ussbs01.htm UNITED STATES STRATEGIC BOMBING SURVEY***PACIFIC WAR*** http://www.combinedfleet.com/kaigun.htm IMPERIAL JAPANESE NAVY [ June 20, 2006, 07:25 PM: Message edited by: Retributar ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retributar Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Ships but not the Ocean ... Hello!. I am having trouble finding out exactly how many divisions the UK used in India (Indian Corps plus others). I will add to this posting as i come across more information!....but, for now, i will post what i have. ***Also, you say that you will not have enough units to garrison all of the island's!.*** 1st...in the Editor, someone might know how to increase your build limit's,...if this can be done, your difficulty should then be probably solved!. Also, make 'At Start' UNIT Game Change's to permit you more Starting Corp's [Or Whatever] for Island Garrison purpose's. If 'Increasing Build Limits' is unworkable,...then i have an idea, i don't know if it will work!. IDEA#1: Create New-Unit's such as a (MANNED) BUNKER-ICON to take the place of a Garrison Unit. These Bunker Icon's would then be your Manned [NOT 'Un-Manned'...if that can be figured out???] Fortified Position's on these Island's/Atoll's. You would get a Historical Quantity of Bunker Icon's pre-postioned to simulate pre-garrisoned fortified Island's at the start of the Pacific War!. Engineers would then be able to construct any subsequent fortification's!. Of course, MANNED BUNKER'S may mean that other regular unit's will not be able to end their turn on those Bunker's. Some OKINAWA Fortifications http://www.svsarah.com/Non-Sailing/Okinawa,%20Naha%20AB.htm British and Dominion Armed Forces > http://niehorster.orbat.com/017_britain/__uk.htm British, Colonial, and Dominion Armies > http://niehorster.orbat.com/017_britain/39_india/army.html ***CLICK ON THE ITEM BOXES (That Indicate Unit Formations) TO GET MORE DETAILED INFORMATION [Can only be done at WebSite]*** ORDER OF BATTLE 'Royal Indian Air Force' 3 September 1939 http://niehorster.orbat.com/017_britain/39_india/riaf.html Pacific Theater of Operations _Orders of Battle _The Beginning _8 / 7 December 1941 Malaya, Burma, and Hong Kong http://niehorster.orbat.com/600_pto/41-12-07_pacific.htm More Theatre' Information -> THE HISTORY PLACE _ World War Two in the Pacific http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/pacificwar/timeline.htm [ June 22, 2006, 04:33 PM: Message edited by: Retributar ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartknock3r Posted June 20, 2006 Author Share Posted June 20, 2006 Thanks retributar, looks good. (as always ) Just took a break from my finals. Haven't spent any time on my mod for a few days. I only have 1 week after school te'll I go on a 2 week vacation, so i'l try and put a lot of effort into it that week. Thanks again! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gérard Le Poer Trench Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Dude ye forgot Quongjin the mainland capital of nationalistic china. After Nanjing was taken they transfered the capital and their Industry to Quonjing in central china. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gérard Le Poer Trench Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Speaking about divisions in total Japan had 140 divisions and some 30 garrison corpses. Navy were 6 aircraft carriers, 3 battleships (not sure but they were alowed to build that much) 15 kruisers and a lot of destroyers, 50 subs. Airforce were about 30 squadrons of wich 4 were on the carriers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ships but not the Ocean Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Wow thanks for all the info so quickly. I have found some good OOB's online, but the more detail the better. That's an interesting idea about the fortresses. I know how to increase the number of garrisons in the editor, my problem is more one of scale. In Europe the armies moved as Corps (about 60,000 men) or Army Groups (about 120,000), but in the pacific islands they moved as divisions (about 15,000) or smaller. Japan had almost 200 divisions, China over 170, and the USA 28 (incl. marines), which would crowd the map pretty quick. I guess it's just a matter of balance... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retributar Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Found an interesting WebSite called "World War 2 in the Pacific" http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Crete/7962/ Brian Smith [Creator of the WebSite:] Thanks for visiting WW2PTO.I created this site over five years ago to let people know of my interest/hobby of World War 2.I put a lot of hard work into it just so maybe I can help people understand our history better.If you have any questions, comments, or concerns, feel free to contact me at guy_conquest@yahoo.com. I try to answer all of my e-mails in a timely fashion, but, as you read on, I'm just like everyone else.Having a thousand things to do!!! Now, on to the "nitty-gritty"! This Brian fellow has 'Sounds of War'- WHICH MIGHT BE INCORPORATED INTO THE 'PACIFIC WAR' MOD! FDR's Speech to Congress Asking for a declaration of war against the Japanese on December 8th, 1941...A radio broadcast of the Attack on Pearl Harbor...Aircraft Sound's...Naval & Land Battle Expose's, make sure to check his LINKS tab!...,...and on and on!. EG: From Links Tab: under the HISTORY LINKS tab http://www.geocities.com/guy_conquest/links.html ***Comando Supremo:Italy at War_The best website out there on the subject of Italy in World War 2.*** 'Home-1941-Weapons' EXCERPT: LIBYA _February 12 - By mid February, the British have taken a total of 115,000 Italian POW's, 845 guns and the destruction of 380 light and medium Italian tanks. The British had also managed to destroy 200 of the 564 Italian aircraft. The British, on the other hand, have lost 80% of their vehicles and all their "I' tanks as well as most of their light and cruiser tanks. British loses amounted to 2,000 troops, 1 in 25 troops that engaged the Italians were killed. Erwin Rommel arrives in Tripoli, Libya with a Panzer and Motorized Infantry Division. He assumes command of the Deutsches Africa Korps. and receives assistance from the Fliegerkorps X and long range aircraft from Sicily to fight the exhausted British. The German 5th Light Division includes 9,300 Germans, 130 tanks, 111 guns and 2,000 vehicles (80 German aircaft are also included). The Italian "Ariete" and "Trento" Divisions arrive as well. The "Ariete" is composed of 6,949 men, 163 tanks , 36 field guns, 61 anti-tank guns and the Brescia Infantry Division. Rommel has 100,000 Italians, 7,000 Italian trucks supplying munitions to the front, 1,000 Italian guns and 151 Italian aircaft. Autoblinda AB41 in Tunisia. Photo Courtesy Alberto Rosselli Italian Tank crew and M13/40 M13/40 at Aberdeen Proving Ground Littorio battleship outside of the La Spezia naval base in 1942 after undertaking camouflage painting. Photo Courtesy Claudio Tadolti Main entrance of "Campo Mussolini" in Rome 1934. Photo Courtesy Lele [ June 22, 2006, 04:40 PM: Message edited by: Retributar ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Empire forces in Burma were very small - in 1941-42 there weer essentially only 2 front line divisions - 1 Burma and 17 Indian. 17 Indian Dvisions was oriiginally intended for Iraq where ti was to be trained and motorised - in Dec 1941 it was unfit for front line service. 7 Armoured Brigade arrived Feb 1942. 14 Army was formed in April of 1943. 2 of its initial units were West African - 81st and 82nd divisions. 81st was composed of units from the Gambia, Nigeria, Sierra Leone and the Gold Coast (now Ghana ), while the 82nd comprised further reinforcements from Nigeria and the Gold Coast, including the two experienced infantry Brigades, 1 (WA) Bde (Nigeria), and 2 (WA) Bde (Gold Coast, which had taken part in the East African Campaign in 1940 and 1941. For the Arakan campaigns it fielded December 1942 to April 1944. Location: The Arakan, Burma British Army units 14th Indian Division 123rd Indian Brigade 47th Indian Brigade 5th Indian Division 7th Indian Division 6th British brigade And Others .....with more troops of course "holding the fort" elsewhere along the border. British 2nd and Indian 7th divisions fought at Kohima in April-June 1944, along with various brigades (notably 161) XV Indian corps was the main unit involved in the 2nd Arakan campaign, but I can't find much mention of it for anything else. By 1945 14th army comprised Fourteenth Army (Lieutenant General William Slim) Indian 5th Division (motorised/airmobile) (in reserve, joining IV Corps) IV Corps (Lieutenant General Frank Messervy) Indian 7th Division Indian 17th Division (motorised/airmobile) East African 28th Infantry Brigade Lushai Brigade (being withdrawn) Indian 255th Armoured Brigade XXXIII Corps (Lieutenant General Montagu Stopford) British 2nd Division (motorised) Indian 19th Division Indian 20th Division Indian 268th Infantry Brigade (motorised) Indian 254th Armoured Brigade (from Wiki) So still not very big! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartknock3r Posted June 21, 2006 Author Share Posted June 21, 2006 Great info. The only trouble im having is editing the cities to match the ones qy posted. Any help will be appreciated! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Andrew Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Bump. Any progress on Pacific War theatre? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retributar Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Capt Andrew , Again i concur!. I would at least like to get a progress update, whether it be positive or negative. So far in the last two week's or so, there has been a deafining silence on at least 2 Major Project's, including my 'War for Middle Earth' wish-list MOD!. Im hoping that ' Honch ' will still keep it in his personal to do/attempt list. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartknock3r Posted August 21, 2006 Author Share Posted August 21, 2006 Sorry guys, its summer, and im just a kid! What really slowed me down was that we went to Las Vegas twice! I hate that place with a passion... until im 21. Well, i plan on getting back to this as soon as possible, but with school starting it's going to be a long time until I finish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retributar Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Fartknock3r : Thank's for your response!. It might not seem like much, but it helps us you-know!, at least we now know that 'Your above ground, instead of underground'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartknock3r Posted November 6, 2006 Author Share Posted November 6, 2006 Hye everyone, been a while hasn't it? To be honest, i was working pretty hard up tell september, im sure you all know why. Well, just an update Pacific War Campaign: Suspended You dont wanna c my report card But im honored to say SidiusPOA has created an excellent global theater map including the pacific! Take a look! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retributar Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Thank's for the 'Update' Fartknock3r on your 'Pacific War Campaign', as alway's we are never overjoyed to hear that your project or any other project is suspended, but sometime's that is just the way it's going to go!. Thank's for making the attempt anyway!. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SidiusPOA Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Fartknock3r can you please if you like send me your work so far so i can update them and continue your work? We can both end this mod. wha tdo you say? Christos Sideris 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantomas Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 I am interested too for your Pacific map. Could you send it me, please ? If the work continue, I can realize the 'unit sprite 2D file" for helping the modder. Contact here, please. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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