kevinkins Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 CMC should never have been announced since it is technically impossible pull off for a small time outfit like Hunting Tank software. BTW CMSF ,, its not just about Syria .. its modern combat anywhere in the Middle East that the terrain and units available make scenario plausible. Kevin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molotov_billy Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Originally posted by Ted: Steve said CMSF sold more so far than CMBO did when it first came out. Could you point that quote out for us? What I read was that sales were similar in the first couple of days, compared to previous releases. A bit of reasoning may lead one to assume that this is largely a cash-in of the trust and popularity that they've developed for the franchise over the past couple of years. (ie, loyal customers pre-ordering or buying on first day, given the company's previous track record) Now that a lot of honest reviews are being published (not the eight out of eight nonsense that we saw prior to the release), and people are spreading the word that CM:SF is indeed an unfinished product at the moment, I wouldn't be surprised if sales haven't done so well since those first couple of days. We haven't heard any quips about sales figures since then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 The eight out of eight nonsense was written by a guy who was either on the beta test team, or designed some scenarios in CMSF (I forget which). I guess the NDA did not apply to that review... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ales Dvorak Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Originally posted by Ted: Steve said CMSF sold more so far than CMBO did when it first came out. Maybe, but that was seven years ago with not so great marketing and internet buy only. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Originally posted by molotov_billy: Could you point that quote out for us? I forget where it was, maybe in one of the CM Gold threads. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmar Bijlsma Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Can't find it after an admittedly cursory search, but Ted is correct. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molotov_billy Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Originally posted by Elmar Bijlsma: Can't find it after an admittedly cursory search, but Ted is correct. Correct in that he said it early on, yes, in the first day or so after release. However, I think you'd need to point out a more recent quote for this to actually mean anything in the context of the discussion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnN Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Originally posted by Ales Dvorak: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ted: Steve said CMSF sold more so far than CMBO did when it first came out. Maybe, but that was seven years ago with not so great marketing and internet buy only. </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ales Dvorak Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Originally posted by FinnN: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ales Dvorak: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ted: Steve said CMSF sold more so far than CMBO did when it first came out. Maybe, but that was seven years ago with not so great marketing and internet buy only. </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ales Dvorak Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 With CMAK Australian ministry of defence was an extra client.I wonder who will be CMSF's extra client? [ September 19, 2007, 04:58 PM: Message edited by: Ales Dvorak ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardaukar Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Well...CMSF made me lose my faith on BFC..and I was their customer since Over the Reich-times when they were BigTimeSoftware. Now I think it'll take long time and very very good product to have me buy another game from them. That is also quite similar opinion to my wargaming buddies. Well..they can have their "new loyal customer base". They certainly lost lot of old-timers who always bought product from them because it was BTS/BFC and thus guaranteed to be good. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardaukar Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 And to add..what happened to Combat Mission Campaigns ? Anyone out there ?!? I'd buy this if it'd be even average quality just to add to my CM experience. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philippe Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 I think in all fairness the problem isn't really a BTS problem as much as a problem with an outside contractor. The irate customer base, of course, doesn't make this distinction. On a more cheerful note, the CMC Beta forum message count stood at 2047 on October 25. Let's see how much that number changes next time someone posts there. Gotta love traffic analysis. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergerbitz Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 Been analyzing the traffic on the CMC Beta forum too. There be activity there. Likely they're squashing some persistent bugs and having a busy time of it. Sometimes I may sound lime a member of that irate customer base that demands answers, but I'm really impartial now. Heck, I have a ton of things to play with before CMC comes out (if it does): There's beer, scotch, CMBB and almost a hundred other PC games I haven't even taken the shrink wrapper off of... ...did I mention scotch? Ah, scotch....slurrrrp. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefarious Edge Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 Originally posted by Ted: Steve said CMSF sold more so far than CMBO did when it first came out. This tidbit means absolutely nothing. CMBO was new. CMSF sold on the backs of CMBO CMAK and CMBB. HALO 3, for example could have sucked hard and would it still have sold well? Of course. People expected it to be good because they liked the other 2. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philippe Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 October 28 -- 2054 posts. That means seven posts since since October 25. While not a flurry of activity, that is not exactly moribund. Given the number of participants, livelier than the open parts of the forum. Discussion about the project continues behind closed doors. May not be a sign of life, but it looks a bit like a twitch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patboy Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Anyway they can to give us some bone from time to time ! Hopeless ! Pat 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenris Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Originally posted by Philippe: October 28 -- 2054 posts. That means seven posts since since October 25. While not a flurry of activity, that is not exactly moribund. Given the number of participants, livelier than the open parts of the forum. Discussion about the project continues behind closed doors. May not be a sign of life, but it looks a bit like a twitch. It's probably like when Bart has to help Skinner look for comets on the Simpsons. But instead of saying 'no sighting' in each post with regard to comets it's regarding a finished product. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 I think we just have to be patient with CMC... Something like this, where you need to adapt one set of coding with another can be extrememly tricky. (Look at the issues with the CMAK 2 patch) I'm sure the fellas are working on it. I'm sure they want to deliver a quality product when it's ready. Mind you, an update from those fellas wouldn't go astray... As for CMSF. I ain't interested till it's toting Panthers and Shermans. I'll take a look at it then. Till then, I'll reserve any real judgement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel J Lee Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Another post on the CMC Beta forum! The heart continues to beat with increasing pace. I know, it's barely alive, but it's beating! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philippe Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 November 1: 2059 posts. That's five posts since October 28. If I were connected to the project in some official capacity, I'd be so embarassed that people were watching things like this that I'd come out and actually say something. But I'm not, so I won't. The Traffic Analysis of Embarassment will continue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog of war Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 think when tow came out it put an end to it with tow you can use any vehicle/tank on any front use captured weapons etc and even mod the one tank to make another (sherman/firefly) according to some of the posts here needs a few patches yet but otherwise is cmc replacement . do not have tow myself yet, just what i read here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1A1TC Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Why are you all talking about CMSF here instead of on CMSF forums? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithers Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Because there is nothing CMC related to talk about here........ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergerbitz Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Long Live the Wait for CMC!! WOOOOT!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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