Any news?

[GSX]

I agree fully with the above post, especially on the Mouse Zoom, this would have been a really great addition and I'm sure it wasnt impossible to do.

However, my point was that if CMC takes another year to come out how many guys may actually buy it. I mean guys who dont already play it here. So to that effect how will the company make any money on it?

I for one will definately buy it as I too feel that a Campaign will make CMBB much more interesting for me. It is after all this time still the game I fire up through choice.

[Sergei]

How BFC makes money on their products isn't your concern. Your only purpose is to GIVE them that money!

And starting rumours like "CMC takes another year to come" is not very useful either. Hunter just gave the last status update two weeks ago. Not that there is any need for news except for the news that the game has gone gold.

[Ultraman]

Originally posted by Sergei:

... except for the news that the game has gone gold.

What?! The game has gone gold??? WOOHOOO!!!!

(runs off spreading rumors all over the internet)

[Wildass69]

It's been a while since I've posted anywhere on this forum. But I have never stopped playing CMBB. I think there are a lot of people like me.

CMC has my full anticipation in gear. Recently I started playing "Rome Total War". I'm sure many of you have played at least one of the Total War series. These games combine Strategic, Operational and Tactical aspects of warfare into one game; thus the name. In what I've seen of CMC (which is very little) I am very excited! If you don't think this is the direction CM type games are going then you need to go back to first person shooters. The Campaign Genre is truly approaching the "Chess" Concept and that is exactly where we(?), or at least I, want to go.

BattleFront has never let me down before!

"...and remember this; Strength and Honor to us all!!"

Derrell

[Runyan99]

You just started playing Rome? Like dude, where have you been?

Anyway, it is a good example of a game which combines the tactical and operational/strategic layers into one game. And it works great. Hopefully CMC will bring that to CMBB.

Roma Victor!

[WindyCity]

On the contrary, I hope CMC is nothing like RTW.

[onodoken]

Any news?

[MeatEtr]

This just in, some new news.

"There is no news."

[Melnibone]

From Wargamer.com:

Also in the works is Combat Mission Campaigns, announced late last year, which has recently lost one of its key development team members creating a major setback. Luckily the remaining team was able to pull resources and put the game back on schedule, but my inside source says that “We're still not quite ready for a release, but Bruce Poon and team are working hard to wrap it up.” The word on the grapevine is that Combat Mission fans will “forgive the waiting time [over four years] the moment they'll hold this gem in their hands... promised.”

[Lah]

I just got into Rome total war earlier this year, wish I didn't as a part of my life got lost for a while :eek:

Looks like some more of my life will dissapear with CMC

[MeatEtr]

Originally posted by Melnibone:

From Wargamer.com:

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Also in the works is Combat Mission Campaigns, announced late last year, which has recently lost one of its key development team members creating a major setback. Luckily the remaining team was able to pull resources and put the game back on schedule, but my inside source says that “We're still not quite ready for a release, but Bruce Poon and team are working hard to wrap it up.” The word on the grapevine is that Combat Mission fans will “forgive the waiting time [over four years] the moment they'll hold this gem in their hands... promised.”

</font>

[junk2drive]

Maybe the four years comment refers to the players wishing for a campaign ever since CMBB was released.

[scottie]

so no sign of that update yet them or have i missed something ?

scott

[Moon]

The game has been announced last year, but Bruce and his team is in fact working on already for four years. No kidding...

The news from wargamer.com are old news. The key position has been replaced and the team is back to work full force.

Martin

[easytarget]

what everyone hitting this forum is looking for is a status update and possibly a really rough eta

how about it?

[K.A. Miles]

Cool it, easytarget, and let these guys do their job.

Do you want updates, or the game? :confused:

[Michael Dorosh]

Originally posted by easytarget:

what everyone hitting this forum is looking for is a status update and possibly a really rough eta

how about it?

My money is on the 21st Century; how rough is "really"?

[easytarget]

Originally posted by K.A. Miles:

Cool it, easytarget, and let these guys do their job.

Do you want updates, or the game? :confused:

yeah, you're right, at 4 years and counting taking 5 minutes to do an update in this forum on the status of the game would really slow things down

[KG_AGCent]

These guys could take a lesson from Panther games. Regular status updates to Conquest of the Aegean including bad news along with the good at matrixgames.com forums. Though BTS puts out quality product their customer relations policies are none too endearing.

[K.A. Miles]

They don't want you as a dear friend, they want you as a customer. There's plenty of other things to do, while we wait. Complaining is a good occupation, for instance.

[Urban Shocker]

Keep it up boys...we're almost to acceptance!

Stage 1. Denial

We deny that the loss has occurred.

We ignore the signs of the loss.

We begin to use:

Magical thinking believing by magic this loss will go away

Excessive fantasy believing nothing is wrong; this loss is just imagined; when I wake up everything will be OK.

Regression believing that if we act childlike and want others to reassure us that nothing is wrong.

Withdrawal believing we can avoid facing the loss and avoid those people who confront us with the truth.

Rejection believing we can reject the truth and those who bring us the news of our loss to avoid facing the loss.

Stage 2. Bargaining

We bargain or strike a deal with God, ourselves

We bargain or strike a deal with God, ourselves, or others to make the loss go away

We bargain or strike a deal with God, ourselves, or others to make the loss go away.

We promise to do anything to make this loss go away.

We agree to take extreme measures in order to make this loss disappear.

We lack confidence in our attempts to deal with the loss, looking elsewhere for answers.

We begin to:

Shop around believing we look for the ``right'' agent with the ``cure'' for our loss.

Gamble believing we can take chances on ``cures'' for our loss.

Take risks believing we can put ourselves in jeopardy financially, emotionally, and physically to get to an answer or ``cure'' for our loss.

Sacrifice believing in our pursuit of a ``cure'' to change the loss we can ignore our real needs.

Stage 3. Anger

We become angry with God, with ourselves, or with others over our loss.

We become outraged and incensed over the steps that must be taken to overcome our loss.

We pick out ``scapegoats'' on which to vent our anger, e.g., the doctors, hospitals, clerks, helping agencies, rehabilitation specialists, etc.

We begin to use:

Self-blaming believing we should blame ourselves for this loss.

Switching blame believing we should blame others for this loss.

Blaming the victim believing we should blame the victim for leaving us.

Aggressive anger believing we have a right to vent our blame and rage aggressively on the closest target.

Resentment believing our hurt and pain is justified to turn into resentment toward involved in our loss event including the victim.

Anger is a normal stage. It must be expressed and resolved; if it is suppressed and held in, it will become "Anger in" leading to a maladaptive condition of depression that drains our emotional energy.

Stage 4. Despair

We become overwhelmed by the anguish, pain, and hurt of our loss; we are thrown into the depths of our emotional response.

We can begin to have uncontrollable spells of crying, sobbing, and weeping.

We can begin to go into spells of deep silence, morose thinking, and deep melancholy.

We can begin to experience:

Guilt believing we are responsible for our loss.

Remorse believing we should feel sorry for our real or perceived ``bad past,'' deeds for which this loss is some form of retribution or punishment.

Loss of hope believing that because the news of our loss becomes so overwhelming that we have no hope of being able to return to the calm and order our life held prior to the loss.

Loss of faith and trust believing that because of this loss we can no longer trust our belief in the goodness and mercy of God and mankind.

We need support to assist us in gaining the objectivity to reframe and regroup our lives. If we are not able to work through our despair, we risk experiencing events such as mental illness, divorce/separation, suicide, inability to cope with the aftermath of our loss, rejection of the family member who has experienced the loss, and detachment, poor bonding, or unhealthy interaction with the parties involved in our loss.

Stage 5. Acceptance

We begin to reach a level of awareness and understanding of the nature of our loss.

We can now:

describe the terms and conditions involved in our loss.

fully describe the risks and limitations involved in the treatment or rehabilitation for the loss involved.

cope with our loss.

test the concepts and alternatives available to us in dealing with this loss.

handle the information surrounding this loss in a more appropriate way.

We begin to use:

Rational thinking believing we are able to refute our irrational beliefs or fantasy thinking in order to address our loss from a rational perspective.

Adaptive behavior believing we can begin to adjust our lives to incorporate the changes necessary after our loss.

Appropriate emotion believing we begin to express our emotional responses freely and are better able to verbalize the pain, hurt, and suffering we have experienced.

Patience and self-understanding believing we can recognize that it takes time to adjust to the loss and give ourselves time to ``deal'' with it. We set a realistic time frame in which to learn to cope with our changed lives.

Self-confidence believing, as we begin to sort things out and recognize the stages of loss as natural and expected, that we gain the confidence needed for personal growth.

We can be growing in acceptance and still experience denial, bargaining, anger, and despair.

To come to full acceptance we need support to gain objectivity and clarity of thinking. It is often useful to gain such assistance from those who have experienced a similar loss. For example, groups of parents who have experienced the death of a child or who have had a child with a developmental disability.

Peer support from strangers is often the best way for a person to deal with the grieving process.

[Shmavis]

That reminds me of an episode of The Simpsons. Homer experienced all the symptoms in a few seconds.

[General Bolt]

Originally posted by Urban Shocker:

Keep it up boys...we're almost to acceptance!

Stage 1. Denial

We deny that the loss has occurred.

We ignore the signs of the loss.

We begin to use:

Magical thinking believing by magic this loss will go away

Excessive fantasy believing nothing is wrong; this loss is just imagined; when I wake up everything will be OK.

Regression believing that if we act childlike and want others to reassure us that nothing is wrong.

Withdrawal believing we can avoid facing the loss and avoid those people who confront us with the truth.

Rejection believing we can reject the truth and those who bring us the news of our loss to avoid facing the loss.

Stage 2. Bargaining

We bargain or strike a deal with God, ourselves

We bargain or strike a deal with God, ourselves, or others to make the loss go away

We bargain or strike a deal with God, ourselves, or others to make the loss go away.

We promise to do anything to make this loss go away.

We agree to take extreme measures in order to make this loss disappear.

We lack confidence in our attempts to deal with the loss, looking elsewhere for answers.

We begin to:

Shop around believing we look for the ``right'' agent with the ``cure'' for our loss.

Gamble believing we can take chances on ``cures'' for our loss.

Take risks believing we can put ourselves in jeopardy financially, emotionally, and physically to get to an answer or ``cure'' for our loss.

Sacrifice believing in our pursuit of a ``cure'' to change the loss we can ignore our real needs.

Stage 3. Anger

We become angry with God, with ourselves, or with others over our loss.

We become outraged and incensed over the steps that must be taken to overcome our loss.

We pick out ``scapegoats'' on which to vent our anger, e.g., the doctors, hospitals, clerks, helping agencies, rehabilitation specialists, etc.

We begin to use:

Self-blaming believing we should blame ourselves for this loss.

Switching blame believing we should blame others for this loss.

Blaming the victim believing we should blame the victim for leaving us.

Aggressive anger believing we have a right to vent our blame and rage aggressively on the closest target.

Resentment believing our hurt and pain is justified to turn into resentment toward involved in our loss event including the victim.

Anger is a normal stage. It must be expressed and resolved; if it is suppressed and held in, it will become "Anger in" leading to a maladaptive condition of depression that drains our emotional energy.

Stage 4. Despair

We become overwhelmed by the anguish, pain, and hurt of our loss; we are thrown into the depths of our emotional response.

We can begin to have uncontrollable spells of crying, sobbing, and weeping.

We can begin to go into spells of deep silence, morose thinking, and deep melancholy.

We can begin to experience:

Guilt believing we are responsible for our loss.

Remorse believing we should feel sorry for our real or perceived ``bad past,'' deeds for which this loss is some form of retribution or punishment.

Loss of hope believing that because the news of our loss becomes so overwhelming that we have no hope of being able to return to the calm and order our life held prior to the loss.

Loss of faith and trust believing that because of this loss we can no longer trust our belief in the goodness and mercy of God and mankind.

We need support to assist us in gaining the objectivity to reframe and regroup our lives. If we are not able to work through our despair, we risk experiencing events such as mental illness, divorce/separation, suicide, inability to cope with the aftermath of our loss, rejection of the family member who has experienced the loss, and detachment, poor bonding, or unhealthy interaction with the parties involved in our loss.

Stage 5. Acceptance

We begin to reach a level of awareness and understanding of the nature of our loss.

We can now:

describe the terms and conditions involved in our loss.

fully describe the risks and limitations involved in the treatment or rehabilitation for the loss involved.

cope with our loss.

test the concepts and alternatives available to us in dealing with this loss.

handle the information surrounding this loss in a more appropriate way.

We begin to use:

Rational thinking believing we are able to refute our irrational beliefs or fantasy thinking in order to address our loss from a rational perspective.

Adaptive behavior believing we can begin to adjust our lives to incorporate the changes necessary after our loss.

Appropriate emotion believing we begin to express our emotional responses freely and are better able to verbalize the pain, hurt, and suffering we have experienced.

Patience and self-understanding believing we can recognize that it takes time to adjust to the loss and give ourselves time to ``deal'' with it. We set a realistic time frame in which to learn to cope with our changed lives.

Self-confidence believing, as we begin to sort things out and recognize the stages of loss as natural and expected, that we gain the confidence needed for personal growth.

We can be growing in acceptance and still experience denial, bargaining, anger, and despair.

To come to full acceptance we need support to gain objectivity and clarity of thinking. It is often useful to gain such assistance from those who have experienced a similar loss. For example, groups of parents who have experienced the death of a child or who have had a child with a developmental disability.

Peer support from strangers is often the best way for a person to deal with the grieving process.

Holy sore fingers Batman. A damn **** pile of typing when you could have just said. "Waiting makes me sad."

[MeatEtr]

I doubt he typed all that out, that would be way too much effort. Probably just a copy/paste job from some self-help website that he needs in order to get through this life. Or at least this major life-altering ordeal with CMC.

[Shmavis]

I'm not happy about the delay, but a product of any quality shouldn't be rushed. We just have to hold on a bit longer, people.