152mmDumbRocket Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 The title says it all. :mad: I had to try a listening server, but that was too much for my computer after a long time gaming. What went wrong and what will be done about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
152mmDumbRocket Posted April 27, 2008 Author Share Posted April 27, 2008 On a related note, I put up a listening server while Delta Pavonis was down. It did hold for a while DP was being restored, but since it's a laptop with integrated graphics, it won't be doing permanent duty. Now for my question: What is the maximum size of real players recommended for a listening server? I was just wondering, because I think someone should run a listening server for anyone who doesn't play on the regular times. Sure, we need to get the word out more, but I still think that a listening server, preferably with a multi-core processor, should usually be up. Incidentally, I know that there are many services that allow you to rent server space for popular games. Could someone rent space on those and create more DropTeam servers so that more people can play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phonan Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Well Poesel used to host Creature Zoo, and that would probably be used for backup duty if it weren't for the fact that he's having technical problems. Certainly I suppose that someone could rent server space and I don't know too much about how that would work but we might be able to set up a DT server that way... it would be cheaper and easier though if someone were able to run their own; having it 24-7 would be hard for some people though. Also, it's completely possible, I'm sure, to run a standalone server on a laptop with integrated graphics- the server doesn't need to worry about rendering what's on-screen. It's likely running and playing that makes it very hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
152mmDumbRocket Posted April 27, 2008 Author Share Posted April 27, 2008 Originally posted by Phonan Also, it's completely possible, I'm sure, to run a standalone server on a laptop with integrated graphics- the server doesn't need to worry about rendering what's on-screen. It's likely running and playing that makes it very hard.Okay, I'll rest easy. But who can step up to the plate of running part-time standalone servers or full-time dedicated ones? I think I can help both users: :cool: http://www.psystar.com/psystar_open_computer_osx86_reinventing_the_wheel.html This site shows a pair of Mac clone models that can run Mac OS X Leopard, and can also be ordered with Ubuntu Linux 8.4 or Ubuntu Linux Server 8.4. Just follow the sidebar links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phonan Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Well this got me interested. I've been following the whole story of Psystar and its Open computer a lot lately, and mostly I haven't heard many good things; however I think hardly anyone knows about Psystar. Have you tried or seen a Psystar computer? I'd be really interested if you have, because most news sites I've looked on know hardly anything about them. The idea of "Open OSX" is awesome, but I'm not really sure if what Psystar is doing is legal and that's what makes me wary of using their computers to run the DT server. If you have experience with them and think it's worth trying, maybe we should go for it. On the other hand, it should be possible to run a server on any cheap computer someone has without risking OS X EULA infringement. Perhaps a cheap computer and Ubuntu is the way to go here. What do you think, 152? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
152mmDumbRocket Posted April 28, 2008 Author Share Posted April 28, 2008 Maybe so. I'd only just found out about Psystar today when I was Googling DropTeam, and a DropTeam review in Macworld had Psystar as a related article. The Open Computer does have Ubuntu, both regular and server versions, as OS options. But you're right, anyone could use an old computer, or, follow my idea and build their own. From what I could tell, the baseline Open Computer was using a Asus TM-211 case, which I thought was decent. The OpenPro Computer was using an Antec P180, which is an excellent case for a high end system. In fact, the P180 was designed for gaming and server duties. A cheap computer that is no longer needed for anything else would do pretty well as a DT server. But some people might not want to install a new operating system or have a computer to spare, so that's why I proposed rented gaming servers. It would give more people the option to create more servers. But for a small, inexpensive server, there's always Shuttle barebones systems for the more adventurous. But for people who want it constructed for them, these might help: http://ztechshop.net/computers/miniseries/ http://system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=83 For Wal-Mart lovers: http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2007/10/200-everex-gree.html This next url might be helpful for Europeans: http://webapps.ubuntu.com/marketplace/europe/ If you want to install Ubuntu yourself: http://librenix.com/?inode=11001 http://ubuntulite.tuxfamily.org/?q=node/2 A little something for Mac mini owners about installing Ubuntu (hey, that's a great idea for people who already have them!): http://rfdlinux.wordpress.com/2008/01/11/installing-ubuntu-710-on-a-mac-mini/ What I want to do by inspiring the creation of these servers is to attract more people online, raise awareness about us and our game to outsiders, and give us a lot of space for experimentation, and even some tournaments. That's it. That's what comes of the power of Google and a hardware geek. P.S. On the Open Computer, Ubuntu 8.4 and Ubuntu Server 8.4 are free (Yippie! We just saved $155 dollars by not buying Leopard with it! ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__Yossarian0815[jby] Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Expect a server experiment tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
152mmDumbRocket Posted April 28, 2008 Author Share Posted April 28, 2008 What kind of experiment? Will we have to play some rounds? I almost forgot, will this be on Delta Pavonis, or is someone else setting up a new server? [ April 28, 2008, 08:21 AM: Message edited by: 152mmDumbRocket ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__Yossarian0815[jby] Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 I am going to try to set up my own server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
152mmDumbRocket Posted April 28, 2008 Author Share Posted April 28, 2008 Awesome! Now there will be an additional server for backup and for anyone who doesn't go to DP on Sundays and Wednesdays! If you need guinea pigs to try out your server, I guarantee that I will be there. What name are you planning to give it? And what scenarios are you planning to run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__Yossarian0815[jby] Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 I trying to run a server in linux. Do outsiders need to have any rights to any files to be able to join? If I start DT while running a dedicated server should I be able to see it in the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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