professionalXMAZ Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 per title. M10 main gun is disabled, everything else is at 100%, but even when turned backwards, unbuttoned + able to see the enemy, they haven't fired a single round. how do i get them to shoot? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 They will. I tested it myself: They do it on their own. So they need to be in a position where they are busy with important stuff forwards and the spot and are threatened from behind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
professionalXMAZ Posted October 10, 2019 Author Share Posted October 10, 2019 so in my situation, if I back the m10 towards enemy infantry they should shoot at them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user1000 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, IanL said: They will. I tested it myself: They do it on their own. So they need to be in a position where they are busy with important stuff forwards and the spot and are threatened from behind. Indeed they can target by themselves but this wasn't taken into question by me. I suggested that there be a target light command that would allow the user to use the .50cals as an actual target light line to anywhere, so that you as the player can just select which area to target with .50cals alone. Edited October 10, 2019 by user1000 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchy56 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 The M5A1 Stuart can also fire its .30 cal AAMG if there's targets to its right side and it's unbuttoned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user1000 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 You can then use target light to indirect fire with .50 anywhere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 On 10/10/2019 at 2:26 PM, professionalXMAZ said: so in my situation, if I back the m10 towards enemy infantry they should shoot at them? Yes, I believe so. They need to be unbuttoned. Be aware whom ever you are backing towards has every right to shoot at you though.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 In the OPs case, with the main gun inop, there will be no Target Light command (IIRC). The only functioning weapon will be the .50, so it will "move up" to the Target command. A covered arc would, however, make the turret rotate to the rear (assuming the covered arc is to the rear of the vehicle. A covered arc to the front would prevent the .50 from firing. (<- this is supposition, dosed with a lot of experience.) So, the covered arc solution is a non-starter. That leaves the sub-optimal solution of reversing towards the enemy, or just letting the TacAI control the .50. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 hour ago, c3k said: That leaves the sub-optimal solution of reversing towards the enemy, Indeed. Or... you could withdraw the SP gun since in real life it would not be sticking around the battlefield if it was unable to fulfill a useful role. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Real-world criticism said the M10-mounted .50 cal was all but useless in battle. Its an AA self-defense weapon meant to be fired skyward at aircraft attacking along the line of march. Of course Audie Murphy became famous for clambering onto the back of a burning M10 and using the .50 cal to gun down approaching enemy. But there's a reason why they award people medals for doing stuff like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 On 11/5/2019 at 6:01 PM, MikeyD said: Of course Audie Murphy became famous for clambering onto the back of a burning M10 and using the .50 cal to gun down approaching enemy. But there's a reason why they award people medals for doing stuff like that. I always wondered if the whole story was either made up or hugely inflated for propaganda purposes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchy56 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) On 11/5/2019 at 6:01 PM, MikeyD said: Its an AA self-defense weapon meant to be fired skyward at aircraft attacking along the line of march. So were the ones on the Sherman. The fact that it was easily accessible by the crew and could be rotated with the cupola helped a lot with ground-to-ground use, however later versions moved it to a pintle mount on the roof of the turret, which effectively makes it useless in CM because Battlefront is not going to be bothered with letting you place an infantry Joe on it and restricting the turret's rotation. I definitely understand why. Edited November 21, 2019 by Frenchy56 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megalon Jones Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 On 11/21/2019 at 3:22 AM, Bulletpoint said: I always wondered if the whole story was either made up or hugely inflated for propaganda purposes. https://catalog.archives.gov/id/299775 https://catalog.archives.gov/id/299785 https://catalog.archives.gov/id/299784 The better part of B for Baker/15th Infantry watched Murphy really do that. No conspiracy needed. Underestimate the short and scrawny kids at your own peril. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Megalon Jones said: https://catalog.archives.gov/id/299775 https://catalog.archives.gov/id/299785 https://catalog.archives.gov/id/299784 The better part of B for Baker/15th Infantry watched Murphy really do that. No conspiracy needed. Underestimate the short and scrawny kids at your own peril. I would never underestimate anyone short and scrawny. But I wonder if this account has ever been independently verified, or if we just have to trust the US army. All sides pumped out lots of propaganda during the war, and i don't think they ever stopped since.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megalon Jones Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Bulletpoint said: I would never underestimate anyone short and scrawny. But I wonder if this account has ever been independently verified, or if we just have to trust the US army. All sides pumped out lots of propaganda during the war, and i don't think they ever stopped since.. Propaganda is aimed on the national scope. What good does it do to pump up the reputation of a single 1st Lt stuck in a strategic backwater (Colmar Pocket)? In order to believe that, you would have to accept that the higher ups engaged in a conspiracy to force literally 100-150 men to lie under oath. Then these same people would all go to their graves keeping it a secret. To the general public, Murphy is known as a B movie actor who starred in Westerns in the 1950's. The people who testified would certainly recognize him.....would you keep that secret? Imagine the tabloid $$$ available. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vet 0369 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) I have no doubt that he actually did it. The actions leading to an award of the Medal of Honor must be thoroughly investigated and verified. Sure, there have been some awarded for questionable merit, but that was mainly in the 19th century. Also, Audy Murphy was the most highly decorated soldier of WWII. If I remember correctly, he was also wounded in that action that caused him to be invalided out of the Army. He wanted to make it a career. Edited December 1, 2019 by Vet 0369 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Megalon Jones said: Propaganda is aimed on the national scope. What good does it do to pump up the reputation of a single 1st Lt stuck in a strategic backwater (Colmar Pocket)? In order to believe that, you would have to accept that the higher ups engaged in a conspiracy to force literally 100-150 men to lie under oath. Then these same people would all go to their graves keeping it a secret. To the general public, Murphy is known as a B movie actor who starred in Westerns in the 1950's. The people who testified would certainly recognize him.....would you keep that secret? Imagine the tabloid $$$ available. Good points there. +1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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