MikeyD 825 Posted July 8 (edited) You can blame much of popular WWII vehicle names on *hobbyist experts* shortly after the war. Von Senger und Etterlin's post-war writings gave us a LOT of common German vehicle names (which were then perpetuated by Tamiya). On the allied side, names largely came from post-war Brit vehicle lists that gave names to vehicles that were never given names during the war. There was even a post-war Italian sci-fi periodical that published detailed descriptions of Nazi flying saucers(!) that haunt the dark web to this day. Edited July 9 by MikeyD 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sequoia 136 Posted July 8 Someday I hope there's another odds and ends package for CMBN with Brummbars. They were present in the Normandy campaign. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt.Squarehead 911 Posted July 8 51 minutes ago, MikeyD said: There was even a post-war Italian sci-fi periodical that published detailed descriptions of Nazi flying saucers(!) that haunt the dark we to this day. Don't! You'll have JK frothing at the mouth! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steven482 0 Posted July 9 Guys, what's the benefit in pre-ordering? Eventually I will get a license key that will activate the game on the same day as if I would order it on the release date. Am I missing something? Steven 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt.Squarehead 911 Posted July 9 The opportunity to support a small, independent game company, that produces some of the best WWII & Modern wargames in the world, maybe? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanL 1,467 Posted July 9 8 minutes ago, Steven482 said: Guys, what's the benefit in pre-ordering? Eventually I will get a license key that will activate the game on the same day as if I would order it on the release date. Am I missing something? Steven It used to be that pre-orders got a few days jump on the rabble at large. The last few times that hasn't been the case. 6 minutes ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: The opportunity to support a small, independent game company, that produces some of the best WWII & Modern wargames in the world, maybe? Which pretty much just leaves the above... 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sburke 1,805 Posted July 9 It may save you time if order processing gets bogged down. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeyD 825 Posted July 9 The benefit of pre-ordering is largely the developer's. its a way to gauge the degree of public interest in a product so they can plan accordingly. It's probably not as reliable indicator these days as it was a decade ago. I (vaguely) recall BFC was caught off guard by the unexpected success of basegame CMFI and had to scramble to get more manuals printed up. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DerKommissar 272 Posted July 9 I think I'll preorder it, then. I generally avoid preorders because big games exploit them: Ironically enough, the selling point of this preorder is that there are no "benefits" to the preorder. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sburke 1,805 Posted July 9 Speed pants. I gotta have em! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 18 Posted July 9 Just ordered, not the biggest module release but always great to see the CM game expanding... Roll on release day 😀 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IICptMillerII 703 Posted July 9 3 hours ago, Steven482 said: Guys, what's the benefit in pre-ordering? Eventually I will get a license key that will activate the game on the same day as if I would order it on the release date. Am I missing something? Steven I was under the impression that it gives BFC an idea of how many hard copies of discs and manuals they will need to support the launch of a new module. That way there is no delay in keeping up with demand on release. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanL 1,467 Posted July 9 17 minutes ago, IICptMillerII said: I was under the impression that it gives BFC an idea of how many hard copies of discs and manuals they will need to support the launch of a new module. That way there is no delay in keeping up with demand on release. But can you still get disks and manuals sent to you? I never did buy them and turned down stuff being sent to me - electronic docs only for me since 1999. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IICptMillerII 703 Posted July 9 21 minutes ago, IanL said: But can you still get disks and manuals sent to you? I never did buy them and turned down stuff being sent to me - electronic docs only for me since 1999. I think so, though I've never done it for any CM products. All digital purchases from me. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waffelmann 15 Posted July 10 Hmmm...what are these weapons (from the web-site, TOE, Weapons, allied, at the end): M21 M4A1 When I google these items I only find modern weapons... 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BletchleyGeek 156 Posted July 10 The first one is the halftrack mounted mortar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M21_Mortar_Motor_Carriage the M4A1 is an early variant of the M4 Sherman tank https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_Sherman_variants from Wikipedia for the M4A1 Quote Continental radial engine; one-piece cast hull; 75mm cannon. Last production units of the M4A1 used a modified hull with large drivers' hatches. Users: US, Britain, South Africa, Poland(M4A1(76)W), France (small numbers). 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waffelmann 15 Posted July 10 In this case: Shouldn't these things listed at "Tanks" and "Halftracks"??? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanL 1,467 Posted July 10 Yep, reported to the author. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjkerner 272 Posted July 10 On 7/9/2019 at 2:33 PM, IanL said: But can you still get disks and manuals sent to you? I never did buy them and turned down stuff being sent to me - electronic docs only for me since 1999. Yes you can, Ian (disks, anyway. I have the CMSF2 disk sitting on a shelf atm). I always order them along with digital downloads. I like having the physical copies around. Gives me a sense of ownership, lol! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy56 102 Posted July 11 (edited) 19 hours ago, BletchleyGeek said: The first one is the halftrack mounted mortar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M21_Mortar_Motor_Carriage the M4A1 is an early variant of the M4 Sherman tank https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_Sherman_variants from Wikipedia for the M4A1 The thing is that two M4A1 variants are already in the base game. Not the M21 though. Edited July 11 by Frenchy56 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostRider3/3 44 Posted July 11 On 7/8/2019 at 1:04 PM, Sequoia said: Someday I hope there's another odds and ends package for CMBN with Brummbars. They were present in the Normandy campaign. It is strange that they would not have been in at least the vehicle pack. Sturmpanzer-Abteilung 217 was present and around the Caen area, 7 August. They escaped the Falaise pocket and the remaining vehicles from the 217 were used in Wacht am Rhein. (Battle of the Bulge) near St, Vith and then later in the Ruhr area. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Emrys 492 Posted July 12 On 7/9/2019 at 12:33 PM, IanL said: But can you still get disks and manuals sent to you? I don't think so. I noticed that when I put in my order for R2V that that option is no longer available. Both will be sadly missed. The disks were good to have if for any reason I needed a fresh, clean copy of the game, something I did need on several occasions. That was because I could DL off a disk much faster than off the web. Michael 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanL 1,467 Posted July 12 13 minutes ago, Michael Emrys said: The disks were good to have if for any reason I needed a When I read that I thought you were going to say "coaster or my drink" I had been using CDs and then DVDs as coasters since 1994 - I ran out a few years ago. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Liederkranz 104 Posted July 12 (edited) On 7/11/2019 at 2:29 AM, Frenchy56 said: The thing is that two M4A1 variants are already in the base game. Not the M21 though. This probably refers to the M4A1 mortar carrier, a predecessor to the M21, not to the M4A1 medium tank. As I recall mortar carriers weren't coded yet when CMFI and GL came out. http://americangimuseum.org/collections/restored-vehicles/m4a1-mortar-carrier-halftrack-1943/ Edited July 12 by General Liederkranz 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt.Squarehead 911 Posted July 12 Good spot. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites