waffelmann Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Hello, I don't know, if this is reported: German Fallschirmjäger, motorized battalion: In quickbattle some units (for example the battalion command, but other squads too) are using the regular LW-field-division models and textures. I think in the scenario-editor everything is fine. Greetings, alex 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 2 hours ago, waffelmann said: I don't know, if this is reported: Once or twice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkEzra Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 @ Waffelmann ...Not a Bug. The attached pics are from my copy of the game. I'd be interested to see pic from your QB LW TOE. It might be you have a corrupted install or use of fan made alterations in the game have created this art problem. Or perhaps my pics and yours don't match due to date/month. I used June 1944 for my pics. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 (edited) My mistake.....I was thinking of the several reports of the same issue in CM:FI where it does appear to be a problem: Edited May 22, 2019 by Sgt.Squarehead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Liederkranz Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 I've seen this in CMFI (and others have reported it there) but not in CMBN. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffelmann Posted May 22, 2019 Author Share Posted May 22, 2019 @MarkEzra I will check the year and region at the evening, when I am at home. I have to admit that I didn't pay attention to these specifications. I will deliver better dates later in the day. Only with the pictures I will have problems, because I reached the limits of the forum. Greetings, Alex 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 (edited) @waffelmann Alex, I recommend sorting out an image hosting account with a site like Imgur or Flickr.....I use both. Edited May 22, 2019 by Sgt.Squarehead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffelmann Posted May 22, 2019 Author Share Posted May 22, 2019 @Sgt.Squarehead Thanks for the tip, but I think we can solve it without pictures! @MarkEzra I looked at my specifications at the quick-battle and I think the important detail is the branche: Luftwaffe, Gepanzerte Infantrie (Armoured Infantry (or Armored???)) My hyphothese is, because the Luftwaffe have not really armoured infantry it produces some strange effects (tested with no mods installed), Try Quickbattle, e.g. holland, september 44, luftwaffe, armoured infantry, manual force selection, and chose then parachute battalion motorized -> don't choose Parachutes as Branche!!! Greetings, alex 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkEzra Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 16 minutes ago, waffelmann said: @Sgt.Squarehead Thanks for the tip, but I think we can solve it without pictures! @MarkEzra I looked at my specifications at the quick-battle and I think the important detail is the branche: Luftwaffe, Gepanzerte Infantrie (Armoured Infantry (or Armored???)) My hyphothese is, because the Luftwaffe have not really armoured infantry it produces some strange effects (tested with no mods installed), Try Quickbattle, e.g. holland, september 44, luftwaffe, armoured infantry, manual force selection, and chose then parachute battalion motorized -> don't choose Parachutes as Branche!!! Greetings, alex will do... thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkEzra Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 LW Infantry arm/infantry have the traditional german army coal scuttle helmet with LW airborne wings markings. I believe this is correct. I am NOT a TOE uniform expert however. Airborne infantry wears the prized jump helmet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffelmann Posted May 23, 2019 Author Share Posted May 23, 2019 I am not a TOE uniform expert, too (;-)), but I think, if I chose a parachute battalion (in the quick battle menu), then there sould be a unit which look like as paratroopers (especially if they have the organisation of a parachute unit (inclusive FG42))! But as said: I am not an expert too. If this is intentionally in this way, then it is ok for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchy56 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 If it's an unit that isn't in the Airborne Infantry tab, it isn't Fallschirmjaeger. So they would be wearing regular Luftwaffe helmets. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffelmann Posted May 23, 2019 Author Share Posted May 23, 2019 Hmmm....I think I express me too confused. You chose in the quick battle menu Luftwaffe and arm. Infantry -> this would be regular LW-Field-Divisions BUT: in the Troop-editor of the Quick-Battle there are only a parachute-battalion. These will have then a mixed appearance. So: In the branches regular troops in the editor airborne Greetings, Alex 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 (edited) Okay, I see the issue, but I'm not sure it is avoidable due to how the code for uniforms works. The FJ motorized battalion and the FJ Panzer Aufklärung Battalion are both motorized rather than true airborne formations, but they did wear full FJ uniform and equipment. This all works properly in the full scenario editor, but at some point it was decided that even though these are airborne division / corps assets, they should not be in the "Airborne Infantry" QB section in fully motorized form for balance reasons. As such, the QB Airborne Infantry section has dismounted versions of both formations (which have correct uniform / helmets) and the QB Armored Infantry section has the intact, fully-motorized formations. Unfortunately, uniforms are not set by the formation, but by the "branch," so this placement under Armored Infantry leads to change in appearance although the formations are functionally the same. However, I think the premise of removing them from Airborne Infantry because they have vehicles needs to be revisited, as it causes problems like this and is not implemented consistently. Looking into this, also found some Brit Airborne formations missing entirely, so will try to get that addressed also. Edited May 23, 2019 by akd 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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