weapon2010 85 Posted May 11 (edited) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzEwZiN2UsY&feature=youtu.be My mg42 team in the building on the hill decides to open up on my Panther commander and kill him.This is CMFB 2.01, Ive never seen anything like this before. Edited May 11 by weapon2010 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weapon2010 85 Posted May 11 and why in hell isnt he buttoning up much sooner? Think about it, if that were me , I would button up in a split second, he just stays there, 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weapon2010 85 Posted May 11 Here is from the mg42 perspective. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne6eeVAv7CM&feature=youtu.be 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weapon2010 85 Posted May 11 (edited) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rcda7CEvCJk&feature=youtu.be Here is the top view line of sight , the mg team does spot Americans in the bldg 20m to the left and 175m beyond the Panther, but he consistently attacks the panther exsposed commander, its not a random acciedntal burst. So 3 issues i see here. What the heck is the mg team doing? Why doesnt the commander button up sooner? I thought friendly bullets cause no harm? Edited May 11 by weapon2010 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BFCElvis 24 Posted May 11 I'm getting a video not available message with all 3 links. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt.Squarehead 896 Posted May 11 Same here. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BFCElvis 24 Posted May 12 15 minutes ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: Same here. I thought that I was "very close" to viewing them. 🙂 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weapon2010 85 Posted May 12 can you view the first one? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
76mm 141 Posted May 12 47 minutes ago, BFCElvis said: I'm getting a video not available message with all 3 links. yup, me too. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weapon2010 85 Posted May 12 they should all work now 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt.Squarehead 896 Posted May 12 (edited) 58 minutes ago, BFCElvis said: I thought that I was "very close" to viewing them. 🙂 Let me know when you are very, very close. 24 minutes ago, weapon2010 said: they should all work now Sadly not. Edited May 12 by Sgt.Squarehead 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weapon2010 85 Posted May 12 i changed all the videos to public view , so they should be visible 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt.Squarehead 896 Posted May 12 Nope, but I got a different error message this time.....Maybe try posting the links again? Perhaps the old links are not reflecting the new public status? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanL 1,460 Posted May 12 2 hours ago, weapon2010 said: So 3 issues i see here. What the heck is the mg team doing? Yeah that's not right 2 hours ago, weapon2010 said: Why doesnt the commander button up sooner? Probably because his side should not be shooting at him - see above - and friendly bullets cause no harm - see blow 2 hours ago, weapon2010 said: I thought friendly bullets cause no harm? Also not right. Do you have a saved game of this? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sttp 62 Posted May 12 (All 3 links appear to be working now.) Really strange situation. Although I'd swear I've seen friendly bullet damage a few other times before. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xorg_Xalargsky 63 Posted May 12 I don't know why that tank was targeted, as it seemed sort of off-course from the enemy team, but I know that ricochets *will* harm friendly units. Whatever that MG was shooting it, I'm fairly certain the tank commander died from a ricochet in the cupola. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weapon2010 85 Posted May 12 wait you can see the videos? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt.Squarehead 896 Posted May 12 (edited) I still can't. EDIT - Tried a different browser and now I can see them! Edited May 12 by Sgt.Squarehead 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt.Squarehead 896 Posted May 12 (edited) IMHO that MG team isn't firing at the Panther, it's firing at the infantry contact.....They're just bloody awful shots (-2 Leadership)! I suspect @Xorg_Xalargsky may well be correct about a ricochet causing the damage (I've seen friendly fire in Iron Mode, but small arms fire never seemed to have any effect on the recipients).....Do you have a view from the Panther's end? Edited May 12 by Sgt.Squarehead 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weapon2010 85 Posted May 12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzEwZiN2UsY&feature=youtu.be yep right here 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weapon2010 85 Posted May 12 hes not firing at the Infantry contact, every burst is dead on at the commander, in my opinion, i could understand a random burst at the panther, its a persistent attack 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weapon2010 85 Posted May 12 if a -2 leadership causes an mg tean to randomly take out a Panther commander, i guess thats possible, but they need to face a court martial 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt.Squarehead 896 Posted May 12 (edited) If you watch the video at the Panther end carefully you see the ricochet come back and hit him.....Here's one of the rounds that did it: Note the direction of travel. Either that or an unseen 'someone else' shot your TC. Edited May 12 by Sgt.Squarehead 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weapon2010 85 Posted May 12 so only deflected small arms fire is lethal? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt.Squarehead 896 Posted May 12 (edited) I've had infantry teams open up on each other at about 50 yards while testing Coup d'Etat, no casualties were suffered. I don't recall what happened with their suppression meter TBH.....I believe @MOS:96B2P either witnessed it, or may recall me mentioning it at the time. Some of the early Red vs Red CM:SF1 scenarios specifically warn you about the risk of friendly fire in their briefings, especially when using low-quality troops in conditions of limited visibility. I believe this applies to vehicles, including tanks, too and those fellas really can wreck your whole day! Edited May 12 by Sgt.Squarehead 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites