I hope this Is not a New Bug.

[weapon2010 97]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzEwZiN2UsY&feature=youtu.be

My mg42 team in the building on the hill decides to open up on my Panther commander and kill him.This is CMFB 2.01, Ive never seen anything like this before.

Edited May 11, 2019 by weapon2010

[weapon2010 97]

and why in hell isnt he buttoning up much sooner? Think about it, if that were me , I would button up in a split second, he just stays there,

[weapon2010 97]

Here is from the mg42 perspective.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne6eeVAv7CM&feature=youtu.be

[weapon2010 97]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rcda7CEvCJk&feature=youtu.be

Here is the top view line of sight , the mg team does spot Americans in the bldg 20m to the left and 175m beyond the Panther, but he consistently attacks the panther exsposed commander, its not a random acciedntal burst.

So 3 issues i see here.

What the heck is the mg team doing?

Why doesnt the commander button up sooner?

I thought friendly bullets cause no harm?

Edited May 11, 2019 by weapon2010

[BFCElvis 24]

I'm getting a video not available message with all 3 links.

[Sgt.Squarehead 1,111]

Same here. 

[BFCElvis 24]

15 minutes ago, Sgt.Squarehead said:

Same here. 

I thought that I was "very close" to viewing them. 🙂

[weapon2010 97]

can you view the first one?

[76mm 148]

47 minutes ago, BFCElvis said:

I'm getting a video not available message with all 3 links.

yup, me too.  

[weapon2010 97]

they should all work now

[Sgt.Squarehead 1,111]

58 minutes ago, BFCElvis said:

I thought that I was "very close" to viewing them. 🙂 

Let me know when you are very, very close. 

24 minutes ago, weapon2010 said:

they should all work now

Sadly not. 

Edited May 12, 2019 by Sgt.Squarehead

[weapon2010 97]

i changed all the videos to public view , so they should be visible

[Sgt.Squarehead 1,111]

Nope, but I got a different error message this time.....Maybe try posting the links again?  Perhaps the old links are not reflecting the new public status?

[IanL 1,552]

2 hours ago, weapon2010 said:

So 3 issues i see here.

What the heck is the mg team doing?

Yeah that's not right

2 hours ago, weapon2010 said:

Why doesnt the commander button up sooner?

Probably because his side should not be shooting at him - see above - and friendly bullets cause no harm - see blow

2 hours ago, weapon2010 said:

I thought friendly bullets cause no harm?

Also not right.

Do you have a saved game of this?

[sttp 82]

(All 3 links appear to be working now.)

Really strange situation. Although I'd swear I've seen friendly bullet damage a few other times before.

[Xorg_Xalargsky 100]

I don't know why that tank was targeted, as it seemed sort of off-course from the enemy team, but I know that ricochets *will* harm friendly units.

Whatever that MG was shooting it, I'm fairly certain the tank commander died from a ricochet in the cupola.

[weapon2010 97]

 

wait you can see the videos?

[Sgt.Squarehead 1,111]

I still can't. 

EDIT - Tried a different browser and now I can see them! 

Edited May 12, 2019 by Sgt.Squarehead

[Sgt.Squarehead 1,111]

IMHO that MG team isn't firing at the Panther, it's firing at the infantry contact.....They're just bloody awful shots (-2 Leadership)! 

I suspect @Xorg_Xalargsky may well be correct about a ricochet causing the damage (I've seen friendly fire in Iron Mode, but small arms fire never seemed to have any effect on the recipients).....Do you have a view from the Panther's end?

Edited May 12, 2019 by Sgt.Squarehead

[weapon2010 97]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzEwZiN2UsY&feature=youtu.be

yep right here

[weapon2010 97]

hes not firing at the Infantry contact, every burst is dead on at the commander, in my opinion, i could understand a random burst at the panther, its a persistent attack

[weapon2010 97]

if a -2 leadership causes an mg tean to randomly take out a Panther commander, i guess thats possible, but they need to face a court martial

[Sgt.Squarehead 1,111]

If you watch the video at the Panther end carefully you see the ricochet come back and hit him.....Here's one of the rounds that did it:

Note the direction of travel. 

Either that or an unseen 'someone else' shot your TC. 

Edited May 12, 2019 by Sgt.Squarehead

[weapon2010 97]

so only deflected small arms fire is lethal?

[Sgt.Squarehead 1,111]

I've had infantry teams open up on each other at about 50 yards while testing Coup d'Etat, no casualties were suffered.   I don't recall what happened with their suppression meter TBH.....I believe @MOS:96B2P either witnessed it, or may recall me mentioning it at the time.

Some of the early Red vs Red CM:SF1 scenarios specifically warn you about the risk of friendly fire in their briefings, especially when using low-quality troops in conditions of limited visibility. 

I believe this applies to vehicles, including tanks, too and those fellas really can wreck your whole day! 

Edited May 12, 2019 by Sgt.Squarehead