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What's The Difference Between The Base Game And Market Garden?

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MG would make a good Christmas present for me as I never bothered buying it (still haven't gotten bored of Base Game + Commonwealth). However, I was wondering what the main additions are with the game over the other two I mentioned.

One of the things I was hoping for was scenarios which don't have bocage. I've found it really hard to find player-made scenarios on the fan sites which don't use this stuff for Normandy.

Other than that, I'd like to hear if there were any major additions to this add-on that I might've missed.

 

 

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Just get 'MG, 'Scenario-Pack', & 'Vehicle-Pack'...It's all major enough.

Sorry...I have elaborated too much on the above subject, and will just let you decide :-)

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One of the things I was hoping for was scenarios which don't have bocage.

It's like going from too much cover to not enough! 🙂   Definitely worth the purchase, there are plenty of scens where it's not just flat polder.  Would also vote for getting the brilliant scenario pack by Jon Sowden, and the vehicle pack for extra authenticity.

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Just to say, the maps in MG aren't totally "Bocage" free. And in some cases they are used just as badly, i.e so close to a house that the people inside would never get any daylight through their windows. That said, it is still worth buying. Challenging campaigns, and plenty of great stand-alone battles.

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I bought Commonwealth and the base game together and Market Garden soon after, so my recollection is muddled, but the British Paratroopers were new to Market Garden weren't they?

And it had some wicked urban maps and scenarios...

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1 hour ago, Freyberg said:

I bought Commonwealth and the base game together and Market Garden soon after, so my recollection is muddled, but the British Paratroopers were new to Market Garden weren't they?

And it had some wicked urban maps and scenarios...

All on the store page:

https://www.battlefront.com/battle-for-normandy/cmbn-market-garden-module/?tab=toe

German Heer

  • Panzer Brigade Panzer Battalion
  • Panzer Brigade Panzergrenadier Battalion
  • Panzer Aufklärungs Battalion (Type 43)
  • Panzer Aufklärungs Battalion (Type 44)
  • Tiger Battalion (Henschel)
  • Reserve Panzer Platoon (Panzer IIIG-based)
  • Sicherungs Battalion
  • Ersatz Battalion

German Waffen-SS

  • Panzer Company (ad hoc)
  • Panzerjäger Company (ad hoc)
  • Panzergrenadier Kampfgruppe
  • Panzergrenadier Flak Platoon (Regimental)
  • Panzer Aufklärungs Battalion (Type 43)
  • Panzer Aufklärungs Battalion (Type 44)
  • Panzer Pioneer Battalion
  • Tiger Battalion (Henschel)
  • Grenadier Battalion
  • Grenadier Ersatz Battalion
  • Schule Battalion

German Luftwaffe

  • Fallschirmjäger Battalion
  • Fallschirmjäger Panzerjäger Battalion
  • Fallschirmjäger Aufklärungs Battalion
  • Fallschirmjäger Aufklärungs Company (Regimental)
  • Fallschirmjäger Pioneer Battalion
  • Fallschirmjäger StuG Brigade
  • Fliegerhorst Battalion

German Kriegsmarine

  • Schiffstamm Battalion
  • Marine Schützen Battalion

German (various services)

  • Armored Flak Platoon (37mm and Quad 20mm)
  • Self Propelled Flak Battery (37mm, Quad 20mm, and 20mm)
  • Infantry Flak Battery (37mm, Quad 20mm, and 20mm)

British

  • Parachute Battalion
  • Parachute Company (Independent)
  • Parachute Engineer Squadron
  • Parachute Engineer Company (Independent)
  • Air Landing Pack Howitzer Battery
  • Air Landing Battalion
  • Air Landing Antitank Battery
  • Glider Pilot Company
  • Infantry Battalion
  • Infantry Battalion (Lorried)
  • Motor Battalion
  • Armoured Regiment
  • Armoured Recce Regiment
  • Armoured Car Squadron
  • Recce Regiment
  • Machinegun Battalion
  • Machine Gun Company [independent]
  • Airborne Recce Squadron
  • Airborne Engineer Company
  • Antitank Battery
  • Antiaircraft Battery

Poland

  • Parachute Battalion
  • Parachute Engineer Squadron
  • Air Landing Antitank Battery

American

  • Airborne Battalion
  • Parachute Demolition Platoon
  • Parachute Pack Howitzer Battery
  • Airborne Antiaircraft Platoon
  • Airborne Recon Platoon
  • Glider Battalion
  • Glider Pack Howitzer Battery
  • Self-propelled Antiaircraft Battery
  • Antiaircraft Battery

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1 hour ago, Freyberg said:

I bought Commonwealth and the base game together and Market Garden soon after, so my recollection is muddled, but the British Paratroopers were new to Market Garden weren't they?

The Fallschirmjäger were introduced in the MG module.

Man, I gotta get to sleep!

 

Mord.

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On 12/6/2018 at 12:24 AM, Warts 'n' all said:

Just to say, the maps in MG aren't totally "Bocage" free. And in some cases they are used just as badly, i.e so close to a house that the people inside would never get any daylight through their windows. That said, it is still worth buying. Challenging campaigns, and plenty of great stand-alone battles.

Has anyone else noticed if the user-made scenarios for MG like those found on The Few Good Men have less bocage than those from the base game or Commonwealth? 

It's almost like a conspiracy between designers to use maps as flat as Texas while overloading each scenario with bocage. I'd really like to find some good H2H ones for MG that are more hilly without the bocage overload.

 

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12 minutes ago, Col Deadmarsh said:

It's almost like a conspiracy between designers to use maps as flat as Texas while overloading each scenario with bocage. I'd really like to find some good H2H ones for MG that are more hilly without the bocage overload.

 

damn we have been found out....  you may want to look at some more maps.  Granted Holland is flat... like really flat, but I never had this perception of a billiard table with hedgerows.

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1 hour ago, Warts 'n' all said:

We can't really blame the designers for the flattish maps in MG. The fault lies with the Germans for not putting up much of a fight around Valkensburg.

The Gebirgsjager were otherwise occupied I assume?

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Probably, in the east, the Balkans and Norway. I've not read a detailed account of US 1st Army's advance in early Sept '44. But I assume that the Germans felt unable to defend the entire line of the Maas in Limburg and decided to concentrate on Aaachen. Which of course, gives us a wonderful urban campaign to fight in CMFB.

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5 hours ago, Warts 'n' all said:

Playing the pedant. Neither of the above mentioned cities are in Holland. They are both in Gelderland.

I see your pedanticism/pedantry and raise by:

Holland

1

 
noun
  1. another name for the Netherlands

 

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/holland

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Is is "another name for the Netherlands". But, one that is used incorrectly. And as I was only being frivolous because JK likes to get everything spot on, I will leave it to others to find out why Gelderland is part of the Kingdom of The Netherlands, but NOT in Holland.

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5 hours ago, Bulletpoint said:

Holland

noun
  1. another name for the Netherlands

 

4 hours ago, Warts 'n' all said:

I will leave it to others to find out why Gelderland is part of the Kingdom of The Netherlands, but NOT in Holland.

 

Ah - you guys do realize that those both cannot be right.

Is this one of those cases where people refer to England when the mean the United Kingdom and it annoys the crap out of the Scots, the Welsh and the Irish?

And when I say people I mean everyone in North America for a start :D

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