Apache Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Asking this as much about RL as the game but red forces can call on the Tunguska (which for me largely means deploying no drones or air strikes until I can find and kill the damn things) but the US side seems stuck with Stingers which, while at times effective, have nowhere near the accuracy or kill rates of OPFOR AA vehicles. Do the US / NATO not have similar weapons? Seems odd that with the millions of dollars worth of AFVs often deployed in CMBS that Stingers are the best you can call on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 16 minutes ago, Apache said: Asking this as much about RL as the game but red forces can call on the Tunguska (which for me largely means deploying no drones or air strikes until I can find and kill the damn things) but the US side seems stuck with Stingers which, while at times effective, have nowhere near the accuracy or kill rates of OPFOR AA vehicles. Do the US / NATO not have similar weapons? Seems odd that with the millions of dollars worth of AFVs often deployed in CMBS that Stingers are the best you can call on. US expects to have air supremacy. Question is more appropriate to ask which adversary would you realistically expect to see a threat from. Answer hint. If you are the army the next biggest air threat would be US Marine aviation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicky Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Nope - at the tiime the game is set the US has its airforce mainly for the task. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_air_defense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 Yeah I thought it would come down to expected US air superiority. Just wish they'd show and blow the Hinds out the air LOL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 (edited) On 11/25/2018 at 10:44 PM, Apache said: Asking this as much about RL as the game but red forces can call on the Tunguska (which for me largely means deploying no drones or air strikes until I can find and kill the damn things) but the US side seems stuck with Stingers which, while at times effective, have nowhere near the accuracy or kill rates of OPFOR AA vehicles. Do the US / NATO not have similar weapons? Seems odd that with the millions of dollars worth of AFVs often deployed in CMBS that Stingers are the best you can call on. US should have Avenger mobile AA platform, but it would not make much of a difference compared to the man-portable Stingers. Might argue that it could at least shoot at Russian small UAVs with its .50 cal. Edited November 27, 2018 by akd 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 (edited) I'd rather see Shilka, ZSU-23-2s & NSVs added to both the Ukrainian & Russian lists TBH.....The latter in particular are a much bigger omission than US AA units IMHO. Edited November 27, 2018 by Sgt.Squarehead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTR Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Damn, I don't even know where there are line 23-2s left other than the airborne and marines. I guess specialist AD units, but CM doesn't really portray them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 I'll take your word for it, but they sure seem popular enough in the Donbass (and in Syria they're all the rage). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homewrecker Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 What i wouldnt give for a m163 type unit for the US, would double as an infantry shredder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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