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Contrary to the official line that no German boots (ignoring downed Luftwaffe aircrews' presumably) ever touched British soil during the war, they did. A commando type raid was allegedly made on the Isle of Wight and kept so classified it still hasn't been released. Considering ULTRA was revealed in the early 1970s, that's saying a lot. Reviews on Amazon not good. Just learned of this book today.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CHURCHILLs-Last-Wartime-Secret-The-1943-German-Raid-Airbrushed-from-History/132835985547?hash=item1eeda4488b:g:ps8AAOSwxOVby0RB:rk:17:pf:0

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John Kettler

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'Sapper',

Brother George infected me with the below brain virus of a song (couldn't get it out of my head for days) a few years ago on a visit, and this is apparently the Mitch Miller version with superb audio and lyrics. Truly, a rousing song. One of the comments on the video says it should be UK's anthem after leaving Brexit. It really resonates with people.


WAs this the set of event you were referring to in the film? Gave me a chill! Don't know how they did it, but it was scary, especially the knights on barded horses. If you PM me, I can refer you to a nonfiction book about an almost totally unknown weapon defending England. A real mind blower. 

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John Kettler

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Well the Channel Islands were British soil and we all know they were occupied from 1940 to the end of the war. Poor Jersey almost lost all their Jerseys as the Germans stationed there started eating them after the islands were cut off by the Allies in 1944.

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13 hours ago, John Kettler said:

Contrary to the official line that no German boots (ignoring downed Luftwaffe aircrews' presumably) ever touched British soil during the war, they did. A commando type raid was allegedly made on the Isle of Wight and kept so classified it still hasn't been released. Considering ULTRA was revealed in the early 1970s, that's saying a lot. Reviews on Amazon not good. Just learned of this book today.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CHURCHILLs-Last-Wartime-Secret-The-1943-German-Raid-Airbrushed-from-History/132835985547?hash=item1eeda4488b:g:ps8AAOSwxOVby0RB:rk:17:pf:0

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John Kettler

It's not impossible, nor very difficult. No one can protect such a vast length of coastline and German special forces were far more active during ww2 than commonly known. But the full truth about ww2? Not in our lifetime if ever. Some time ago I've read that Marika Rökk, the famous Hungarian singer/dancer/actress during ww2, worked for the Soviets. I mean, who can you trust nowadays? 😀

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4 hours ago, Aragorn2002 said:

 But the full truth about ww2? Not in our lifetime if ever. 

True, I think that applies to a great deal of human history. There'd be no need for historians if our collective memory was 100% accurate.

14 hours ago, Sequoia said:

Well the Channel Islands were British soil and we all know they were occupied from 1940 to the end of the war. Poor Jersey almost lost all their Jerseys as the Germans stationed there started eating them after the islands were cut off by the Allies in 1944.

Yeah, little known part of history that Jersey was occupied for the great bulk of the war.

There's a sci-fi TV series called The High Man in a Castle -- where the Jerrys occupy NEW Jersey. Tony Soprano shakes his fist at SS Panthers in traffic, "Ey! I'm drivin' 'ere!" 

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https://www.amazon.co.uk/Churchills-Last-Wartime-Secret-Airbrushed/dp/1473823811/ref=pd_sim_14_1

Reviews are pretty much scathing it as Kettlerian CT.   

Plenty of books on the occupation of the Channel Islands if you want that kind of thing

or the famous capture of 'vacationing' German troops by Home Guard near Walmington-on-Sea on the south coast.

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23 hours ago, DerKommissar said:

There's a sci-fi TV series called The High Man in a Castle -- where the Jerrys occupy NEW Jersey

It's based on the (brilliant) Philip K. Dick book of the same name "The Man In The High Castle"..

Concept: In an alternative universe, the Nazis (who developed the nuke bomb first) occupy the US to the eastern Rockies, and the Japanese occupy the US to the west of the Rockies.  The Rockies are a neutral no man's land.

The TV series is a bit soapy.  But, interesting.

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On 11/3/2018 at 8:34 AM, Erwin said:

It's based on the (brilliant) Philip K. Dick book of the same name "The Man In The High Castle"..

Concept: In an alternative universe, the Nazis (who developed the nuke bomb first) occupy the US to the eastern Rockies, and the Japanese occupy the US to the west of the Rockies.  The Rockies are a neutral no man's land.

The TV series is a bit soapy.  But, interesting.

Just binged Season 3.  Still enjoying it.  A little slow this season though...

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Once one gets used to the concept it becomes a conventional soap opera with cool Hugo Boss designed Nazi SS and Imperial Jap uniforms.  (Not as good as Dick's book.)  I lost interest after a few episodes, browsed the subsequent series quickly, and forgot about it.

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On 11/3/2018 at 9:34 AM, Erwin said:

It's based on the (brilliant) Philip K. Dick book of the same name "The Man In The High Castle"..

Concept: In an alternative universe, the Nazis (who developed the nuke bomb first) occupy the US to the eastern Rockies, and the Japanese occupy the US to the west of the Rockies.  The Rockies are a neutral no man's land.

The TV series is a bit soapy.  But, interesting.

I read the book prior to watching the TV series. The book, almost like a beefed up sci-fi short story, was okay. I thought it could have explored more implications of their alternate history.

4 hours ago, Erwin said:

Once one gets used to the concept it becomes a conventional soap opera with cool Hugo Boss designed Nazi SS and Imperial Jap uniforms.  (Not as good as Dick's book.)  I lost interest after a few episodes, browsed the subsequent series quickly, and forgot about it.

How do you like the Japanese occupiers riding around in UAZ's? I recently watched the TV show. It's completely different from the book. I do like a lot of the world building that was missing in the book -- but I concur 100% with the soap elements.

It's not a bad show, but there are way too many irrelevant plots that hog up a lot of screen time. At the end of S3, IDK what they're doing with this. I remember the I Ching was the central plot device in the book, but here it's even more sci fi?

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"It's not bad."  -- DerKommissar, 2018

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15 minutes ago, DerKommissar said:

I read the book prior to watching the TV series. The book, almost like a beefed up sci-fi short story, was okay. I thought it could have explored more implications of their alternate history.

I was a huge fan of Philip K Dick and read everything of his when I was a teenager.  They were actually life changing as his ideas made me think of the world in a different way.  However, High Castle was not one of my favorites.  Many of his other books have now been the basis for many movies and TV series re alternate futures.  (eg: Blade Runner based on Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep; We can Remember it Wholesale became Total Recall; and so many more...)

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4 minutes ago, Erwin said:

I was a huge fan of Philip K Dick and read everything of his when I was a teenager.  They were actually life changing as his ideas made me think of the world in a different way.  However, High Castle was not one of my favorites.  Many of his other books have now been the basis for many movies and TV series re alternate futures.  (eg: Blade Runner based on Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep; We can Remember it Wholesale became Total Recall; and so many more...)

Yeah, K Dick's work's timeless -- it's ideas and commentary is still fully as relevant now as it was then (if not more so). Some really rad sci-fi concepts. Very good writing too. Respect where respect is due. I'm more an Asimov fan, myself. Asimov's work doesn't get nearly enough love from Hollywood. The again, after seeing I, Robot... maybe that's for the best. I did enjoy the latest Blade Runner, even if it wasn't really Electric Sheep.

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On ‎11‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 5:16 PM, Wicky said:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Churchills-Last-Wartime-Secret-Airbrushed/dp/1473823811/ref=pd_sim_14_1

Reviews are pretty much scathing it as Kettlerian CT.   

Plenty of books on the occupation of the Channel Islands if you want that kind of thing

or the famous capture of 'vacationing' German troops by Home Guard near Walmington-on-Sea on the south coast.

captured-germans.jpg

DoverProm.jpg

SCoastMap.jpg

'Don't tell him @Wicky/Pike' … 😉

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