AncientForest Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Since Final Blitzkrieg is set towards the end of the war, do German tanks have an inbuilt armor disadvantage in this game? ...to represent the metal shortage of Germany. Also are the devs still planning DLC for FB as I have noticed for their other games. I also may get fortress italy eventually. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Liederkranz Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 I believe so. Check out the vehicle descriptions in the manual, and you'll see notes about the armor quality on various tanks, particularly Panthers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncientForest Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 I might have to get fortress Italy, I have not read the description but I imagine Germany may not have such a disadvantage in that one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncientForest Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 Hmm, it seems the manual does mention the armor hardness. Panzer VIE Tiger (Late) The late production model added the Nahverteidigungswaffe close- defense system and increased top armor protection; however, many armor plates had a lower standard of "hardness" due to production shortcuts. Not sure if the game only represents late designs however. To be honest I only just got the game, and am still playing CMBB also. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMac Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) Al thou, BF, may represent Quality Shortcoming of Late War German Armor, I wonder if they also represent the Quality Shortcomings of Allied Main Gun Ammunition...Thou, there is probably enough randomness factored in Penetration vs. Armor that it levels out in the end. Edited September 7, 2018 by JoMc67 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 I recall asking Charles something about the Hetzer armor awhile ago. He told me the bow armor quality was mediocre and the sides were crap. I think he even threw in Brinell hardness numbers. It came as a surprise to discover individual plates can be assigned their own armor quality value. There's more going on 'under the hood' than we realize. Late war German tanks and Russian tanks in particular have a much higher chance of interior spalling - pieces of armor breaking off and flying around the interior. I can't recall the last time I saw 'interior spalling' happen on an American tank (or a modern tank). I vaguely recall mention that early war cast hull Shermans were given lower quality armor specs. Sherman appears to get better and better in that regard over time. The M4A3E8 76mm gun Sherman seems to have excellent armor. Too bad its over-matched by big AT guns, making armor quality a moot point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtsjc1 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 The M4A3E8 76mm gun Sherman seems to have excellent armor. Too bad its over-matched by big AT guns, making armor quality a moot point. 23 hours ago, MikeyD said: I recall asking Charles something about the Hetzer armor awhile ago. He told me the bow armor quality was mediocre and the sides were crap. I think he even threw in Brinell hardness numbers. It came as a surprise to discover individual plates can be assigned their own armor quality value. There's more going on 'under the hood' than we realize. Late war German tanks and Russian tanks in particular have a much higher chance of interior spalling - pieces of armor breaking off and flying around the interior. I can't recall the last time I saw 'interior spalling' happen on an American tank (or a modern tank). I vaguely recall mention that early war cast hull Shermans were given lower quality armor specs. Sherman appears to get better and better in that regard over time. The M4A3E8 76mm gun Sherman seems to have excellent armor. Too bad its over-matched by big AT guns, making armor quality a moot point. Well at least when the projectile comes through there won't be too much spalling! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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