ncc1701e 266 Posted September 2, 2018 Hi all, Could you please recommend some sources / books regarding the libyan civil war (2011 / 2018)? I am looking for the military operations with some more details, if possible, that what I could find on wikipedia or the few things I have currently found. Thanks in advance 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LongLeftFlank 248 Posted September 3, 2018 Try searching archives here: www.understandingwar.org 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt.Squarehead 1,015 Posted September 9, 2018 Long War Journal may prove useful too: https://www.longwarjournal.org/tags/libya 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ncc1701e 266 Posted September 10, 2018 Thanks guys, it helps 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Combatintman 815 Posted September 12, 2018 What exactly are you looking for or what is your intent? For instance are you looking for stuff to make a scenario/campaign out of or is this for study purposes or are you looking for general backgrounders to broaden your knowledge. I've always found in my career that the best place to start in any form of research is to ask yourself the question 'What exactly am I looking for?' 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ncc1701e 266 Posted September 12, 2018 11 hours ago, Combatintman said: What exactly are you looking for or what is your intent? My goal is to design several scenario for CMSF2 taking the historical background of this civil war. Too early for a campaign I am afraid. I prefer to start with something little. I am reading plenty of stuff right now to give me some ideas of interesting things to translate into scenario. I think I have all the necessary equipments (RED tanks / technicals) to do something not too far away from history. Perhaps will miss some NATO air assets like Tiger helicopters but an Apache is not too bad after all. Of course, this will be RED vs RED 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Combatintman 815 Posted September 13, 2018 Daily NATO updates – some are pretty bland but others give locations (city name) of strikes. https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/news_71994.htm Mapping the Libyan Conflict – fiddly interface but some good stuff https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/28217294/mapping-the-libyan-conflict-insct-syracuse-university RAND Study on Airpower https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR676.html You might get scenarios out of these three: http://unosat-maps.web.cern.ch/unosat-maps/LY/CE20110220LBY/UNOSAT_LBY_CE2011_Zawiyah-8MAR11_REPORT_v2_HR.pdf http://unosat-maps.web.cern.ch/unosat-maps/LY/CE20110220LBY/UNOSAT_LBY_CE2011_AbuKammash-14MAR11Report_v1_HR.pdf http://unosat-maps.web.cern.ch/unosat-maps/LY/CE20110220LBY/UNOSAT_LBY_CE2011_AbuKammash-5MAR11Report_v1_HR.pdf 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ncc1701e 266 Posted September 14, 2018 Thank you so much @Combatintman 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Combatintman 815 Posted September 14, 2018 No worries, here's some more to keep you going and I'll probably leave it at that: Maps (although most of the Guardian ones are now dead) https://legacy.lib.utexas.edu/maps/libya-2011.html Progress of the conflict for the first few months: http://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/02/25/world/middleeast/map-of-how-the-protests-unfolded-in-libya.html Uppsala Conflict Database: http://www.ucdp.uu.se/#/exploratory 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ncc1701e 266 Posted April 18, 2019 Battle for Tripoli: https://www.dw.com/en/libyas-battle-for-tripoli-what-you-need-to-know/a-48374754 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt.Squarehead 1,015 Posted April 19, 2019 (edited) I'm messing around with a LNA core file at the moment; 50+ Toyotas & Technicals, 5 T-62 tanks and about a couple of companies worth of men: Their C3 structure is rather complex (borderline tribal even)! These are the guys who will be trying to take Bishr: Don't worry, that's an old picture, it looks a bit sexier these days! Edited April 19, 2019 by Sgt.Squarehead 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MOS:96B2P 1,488 Posted April 19, 2019 12 hours ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: I'm messing around with a LNA core file at the moment; 50+ Toyotas & Technicals, 5 T-62 tanks and about a couple of companies worth of men: Their C3 structure is rather complex (borderline tribal even)! These are the guys who will be trying to take Bishr: Don't worry, that's an old picture, it looks a bit sexier these days! +1 Nice. Another urban area that can be accessed from the sea............... 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ncc1701e 266 Posted April 19, 2019 13 hours ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: Their C3 structure is rather complex (borderline tribal even)! Hey great, where did you find sources about their C3 structure? Would be great to have for my own scenario development. Beautiful map ! Thanks 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt.Squarehead 1,015 Posted April 19, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, ncc1701e said: Hey great, where did you find sources about their C3 structure? Based the composition on what I'm seeing in the news, but TBH I just made the rest up based on my impressions of the force.....Both 'Bishr' and my 'LNA 5th Motorised Brigade' are utterly fictional, but hopefully they should feel sufficiently Libyan to provide some immersion to the scenario. Basically you get half a Militia Company and two thirds of a Reserve Mech Company (minus their vehicles) and a number of Combatant Groups of various sizes. I've tried to co-locate HQs at several levels to ensure there is at least some information sharing between the various groups in the overall formation. Other than that I just went mad with all the new Technicals that are available to Red in CM:SF2 (BIG thank you to @Battlefront.com for those!). 1 hour ago, MOS:96B2P said: Another urban area that can be accessed from the sea............... 1 hour ago, ncc1701e said: Beautiful map ! Bishr is an awesome map, for which I can claim absolutely no credit, I'm just tweaking it to my own tastes for the new engine.....It's pretty big (2.35Kmx3.8Km) with a lot of open desert, so detailing it convincingly (especially the coastline & inland rocky bits) is quite a laborious process. PS - Just discovered that there really is a Bishr in Libya, but it doesn't bear much resemblance to the map at all: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Bishr,+Libya/@30.2576672,19.1951072,1202m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x139aa1e60ef15bf9:0x59393ea8928306e3!8m2!3d30.2572561!4d19.1984106 Edited April 19, 2019 by Sgt.Squarehead 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ncc1701e 266 Posted April 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: Based the composition on what I'm seeing in the news, but TBH I just made the rest up based on my impressions of the force.....Both 'Bishr' and my 'LNA 5th Motorised Brigade' are utterly fictional, but hopefully they should feel sufficiently Libyan to provide some immersion to the scenario. Basically you get half a Militia Company and two thirds of a Reserve Mech Company (minus their vehicles) and a number of Combatant Groups of various sizes. I've tried to co-locate HQs at several levels to ensure there is at least some information sharing between the various groups in the overall formation. Understood, I am looking at the news as well and all I kind find on the net. I thought you had found a miraculous source. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ncc1701e 266 Posted April 25, 2019 Interesting reads: http://www.smallarmssurvey.org/fileadmin/docs/H-Research_Notes/SAS-Research-Note-18.pdf http://www.smallarmssurvey.org/fileadmin/docs/F-Working-papers/SAS-WP12-After-the-Fall-Libya.pdf http://www.smallarmssurvey.org/fileadmin/docs/G-Issue-briefs/SAS-SANA-IB2-Missing-Missiles.pdf http://www.smallarmssurveysudan.org/fileadmin/docs/working-papers/SAS-CAR-WP43-Chad-Sudan-Libya.pdf http://www.smallarmssurvey.org/fileadmin/docs/T-Briefing-Papers/SAS-SANA-BP-Tripoli-armed-groups.pdf 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt.Squarehead 1,015 Posted July 10, 2019 Possibly of interest: https://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2019/whats-happening-in-libya-explainer/index.html 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sburke 1,822 Posted July 15, 2019 May want to add some javelins to the inventory. 🇫🇷 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-libya-missiles-idUSKCN1U50Q5 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt.Squarehead 1,015 Posted July 15, 2019 Apparently they were bust.....Honest! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sburke 1,822 Posted July 15, 2019 37 minutes ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: Apparently they were bust.....Honest! We would never have given the guy we like working weapons! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
