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The basic principle of this were known and shown quite some time back in Japan, and even the crude tech was impressive, but this is WAY past then! NO magic here, just showing what's behind the wearer on the front of the cloak. There's video on YT showing a US soldier in Irag clad in an entire suit of something similar, and you can barely tell he's there, chiefly because that suit couldn't instantly adapt to changing backgrounds when the wearer was moving at speed, so indicated something vaguely man shaped was mobile. There are also small puffs of dust visible as boots hit the ground. The video was jihadist, and I'm sure they had no clue such a thing was on it. Further complicating matters are a dusty environment, heat shimmer and camera of poor quality and at max zoom, so not great definition, but there's more than enough to see what I'm talking about. After the lead Abrams gets zapped by a mine, the probable Army Scout dashes up to the next tank and clambers aboard to talk to the unbuttoned TC, who is clearly interacting with someone right in front of him.
 

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John Kettler

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1 hour ago, John Kettler said:

The basic principle of this were known and shown quite some time back in Japan, and even the crude tech was impressive, but this is WAY past then! NO magic here, just showing what's behind the wearer on the front of the cloak. There's video on YT showing a US soldier in Irag clad in an entire suit of something similar, and you can barely tell he's there, chiefly because that suit couldn't instantly adapt to changing backgrounds when the wearer was moving at speed, so indicated something vaguely man shaped was mobile. There are also small puffs of dust visible as boots hit the ground. The video was jihadist, and I'm sure they had no clue such a thing was on it. Further complicating matters are a dusty environment, heat shimmer and camera of poor quality and at max zoom, so not great definition, but there's more than enough to see what I'm talking about. After the lead Abrams gets zapped by a mine, the probable Army Scout dashes up to the next tank and clambers aboard to talk to the unbuttoned TC, who is clearly interacting with someone right in front of him.
 

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John Kettler

John ! where you find always yours spectaculars video's/pictures  !!

Anyway, thank you to share them, this is one interresting again !!

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8 hours ago, John Kettler said:

The basic principle of this were known and shown quite some time back in Japan, and even the crude tech was impressive, but this is WAY past then! NO magic here, just showing what's behind the wearer on the front of the cloak. There's video on YT showing a US soldier in Irag clad in an entire suit of something similar, and you can barely tell he's there, chiefly because that suit couldn't instantly adapt to changing backgrounds when the wearer was moving at speed, so indicated something vaguely man shaped was mobile. There are also small puffs of dust visible as boots hit the ground. The video was jihadist, and I'm sure they had no clue such a thing was on it. Further complicating matters are a dusty environment, heat shimmer and camera of poor quality and at max zoom, so not great definition, but there's more than enough to see what I'm talking about. After the lead Abrams gets zapped by a mine, the probable Army Scout dashes up to the next tank and clambers aboard to talk to the unbuttoned TC, who is clearly interacting with someone right in front of him.
 

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John Kettler

John, have you ever heard of chroma-keying?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroma_key

 

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French military pre-war invisibility camouflage research was a high advanced when the ironically named work La Victoire, 1939 by Magritte was developed and applied to Maginot Line.  Unfortunately the Germans simply by-passed the invisible fixed fortifications without noticing.

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oh my gawd the nuclear vbied nazi ice creamwerfer?

But what will they do against the flying saucers with underslung panther turrets?!

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He should be using his investigaty skills to examine the leaked classified Russian airborne footage and imploring why Battlefront haven't included this in CMSF2. As well as US Special Forces Mules with MK-47 40mm grenade launchers.  Must be the heatwave or silly season or a coincidental combo of the two.

 

 

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what genuinely scares me is new members or people yrs from now are gonna read our jokes abt ufos with panther turrets or nazi nuclear vbieds at kursk and think this is stuff we.remaking up to joke with JK - not that those were old threads where JK excitedly revealed to us the secrets of his 'research'

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Internet archive reveals all and that thread is definitely worth reading.  Like good wine it gets better over time. 

All the ice cream truck pics alone were worth their weight in forum gold and for those who didn’t get to enjoy

 

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3 hours ago, sburke said:

Internet archive reveals all and that thread is definitely worth reading.  Like good wine it gets better over time. 

All the ice cream truck pics alone were worth their weight in forum gold and for those who didn’t get to enjoy

 

5th anniversay of that thread's beginnings so I suspect a pattern there.   Battlefront could sell the movie rights to that classic thread and retire.

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While it's clear much fun is ensuing, I'm not here to play. Rather, my intent is to show that such things as Stealth/Predator suits are in the field now, to some unknown degree. Jihadists seeking an entirely different goal inadvertently showed the Stealth/Predator suit has moved from lab into the field, to some presently unknown extent. Here's the video I saw, though it looks like a copy of a copy (or worse) relative to what I recall seeing before. Nevertheless, there's enough there to show what the suit can and can't do. Suits such as this one don't, say, shift the wearer's body to some other dimension in order to create invisibility. Instead, they, one way or another, make it so what's behind the wearer is visible on the front. If you watch closely, this suit is better against some backgrounds than others and is somewhat degraded when the wearer is moving fast or transitioning between two different types of background. Don't be surprised if it eventually turns out that the types of materials we're publicly told are being investigated now in the labs turn out to be the very things used in combat uniforms and more.
 

The Germans built, by the way, during WW I,  a version of their Taube (Dove) monoplane fighter which,  with the right sky conditions and Sun angles, was practically transparent and very hard to spot. Read about the Cellon E III here. In a very real sense, it is the ancestor of the Stealth/Predator suit, for though the tech is crude, the core principle of showing the background in order to hide, remains the same. It is biomimetic, for it imitates the octopus, as a case in point. Find the right nature video of an octopus on a rock formation, and it's extremely difficult to tell what is octopus and what are rocks. Only when the octopus abruptly blasts off from the rocks and temporarily doesn't match the rapidly changing background can you truly see it. 

There's much more to this story on the Indian side of things, which you can read about in my ebook available on Amazon and Smashwords. Suffice it to say that they are data mining their ancient sacred texts and recovering such things as a recipe for RAM (Radar Absorbent Material) which really works! The Indians have some of their best people working on this program, including the truly unusual--Sanskrit experts and a religious scholar! What they are particularly seeking to learn are the technological secrets of craft called vimanas, which can be anything from a simple glider to an interstellar spacecraft. What's relevant here is that the fighter plane type craft reportedly cloaked themselves by looking like the sky and clouds at will. Sound familiar? My ebook title includes the word "vimanas" in it, as well as "mystics." The rest of it is too hot for here. 

Yes, I've heard of chroma keying and have some knowledge of how it works, but am hardly an expert. The same holds true for the range of scientific tests applied to determine whether the figure in the video was original to it or some digital add-on.

As for where I find videos such as this one, mostly they find me, and I look at them from the perspectives of someone who's studied war and its tech since childhood; who was an intelligence specialist at two top defense firms and still is someone  to whom insiders and former insiders communicate various tidbits. From time to time, people send me links, or I get a prompt to go look at a certain video, without being told why. In such cases, it's then up to me to notice and extract what's there and understand it as best I can. Only after doing that am I allowed to make further inquiries, from people whose version of Twenty Questions is both tough and intellectually demanding. There is useful information all over and in the most unlikely of places, provided you pay attention, recognize its significance when you see it and have some sort of context for that information. 

Regards,

John Kettler

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1 hour ago, John Kettler said:

While it's clear much fun is ensuing, I'm not here to play. Rather, my intent is to show that such things as Stealth/Predator suits are in the field now, to some unknown degree. Jihadists seeking an entirely different goal inadvertently showed the Stealth/Predator suit has moved from lab into the field, to some presently unknown extent. Here's the video I saw, though it looks like a copy of a copy (or worse) relative to what I recall seeing before. Nevertheless, there's enough there to show what the suit can and can't do. Suits such as this one don't, say, shift the wearer's body to some other dimension in order to create invisibility. Instead, they, one way or another, make it so what's behind the wearer is visible on the front. If you watch closely, this suit is better against some backgrounds than others and is somewhat degraded when the wearer is moving fast or transitioning between two different types of background. Don't be surprised if it eventually turns out that the types of materials we're publicly told are being investigated now in the labs turn out to be the very things used in combat uniforms and more.
 

The Germans built, by the way, during WW I,  a version of their Taube (Dove) monoplane fighter which,  with the right sky conditions and Sun angles, was practically transparent and very hard to spot. Read about the Cellon E III here. In a very real sense, it is the ancestor of the Stealth/Predator suit, for though the tech is crude, the core principle of showing the background in order to hide, remains the same. It is biomimetic, for it imitates the octopus, as a case in point. Find the right nature video of an octopus on a rock formation, and it's extremely difficult to tell what is octopus and what are rocks. Only when the octopus abruptly blasts off from the rocks and temporarily doesn't match the rapidly changing background can you truly see it. 

There's much more to this story on the Indian side of things, which you can read about in my ebook available on Amazon and Smashwords. Suffice it to say that they are data mining their ancient sacred texts and recovering such things as a recipe for RAM (Radar Absorbent Material) which really works! The Indians have some of their best people working on this program, including the truly unusual--Sanskrit experts and a religious scholar! What they are particularly seeking to learn are the technological secrets of craft called vimanas, which can be anything from a simple glider to an interstellar spacecraft. What's relevant here is that the fighter plane type craft reportedly cloaked themselves by looking like the sky and clouds at will. Sound familiar? My ebook title includes the word "vimanas" in it, as well as "mystics." The rest of it is too hot for here. 

Yes, I've heard of chroma keying and have some knowledge of how it works, but am hardly an expert. The same holds true for the range of scientific tests applied to determine whether the figure in the video was original to it or some digital add-on.

As for where I find videos such as this one, mostly they find me, and I look at them from the perspectives of someone who's studied war and its tech since childhood; who was an intelligence specialist at two top defense firms and still is someone  to whom insiders and former insiders communicate various tidbits. From time to time, people send me links, or I get a prompt to go look at a certain video, without being told why. In such cases, it's then up to me to notice and extract what's there and understand it as best I can. Only after doing that am I allowed to make further inquiries, from people whose version of Twenty Questions is both tough and intellectually demanding. There is useful information all over and in the most unlikely of places, provided you pay attention, recognize its significance when you see it and have some sort of context for that information. 

Regards,

John Kettler

This is all very well and good, but how do the black-eyed kids fit into this? 

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Interesting, how the "invisibility cloak" fails at the very moment when the wearer is most exposed.

Best regards,
Thomm

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The NSA "requested" I close down this thread because secrets are being revealed.  I think they were behind the donkey stunt.  Well, at least there's some signs of retaliation for the election meddling!

Steve

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