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      Special Upgrade 4 Tech Tips   12/27/2016

      Hi all! Now that Upgrade 4 is out and about in large quantities we have now discovered a few SNAFUs that happen out in the scary, real world that is home computing.  Fortunately the rate of problems is extremely small and so far most are easily worked around.  We've identified a few issues that have similar causes which we have clear instructions for work arounds here they are: 1.  CMRT Windows customers need to re-license their original key.  This is a result of improvements to the licensing system which CMBN, CMBS, and CMFB are already using.  To do this launch CMRT with the Upgrade and the first time enter your Engine 4 key.  Exit and then use the "Activate New Products" shortcut in your CMRT folder, then enter your Engine 3 license key.  That should do the trick. 2.  CMRT and CMBN MacOS customers have a similar situation as #2, however the "Activate New Products" is inside the Documents folder in their respective CM folders.  For CMBN you have to go through the process described above for each of your license keys.  There is no special order to follow. 3.  For CMBS and CMFB customers, you need to use the Activate New Products shortcut and enter your Upgrade 4 key.  If you launch the game and see a screen that says "LICENSE FAILURE: Base Game 4.0 is required." that is an indication you haven't yet gone through that procedure.  Provided you had a properly functioning copy before installing the Upgrade, that should be all you need to do.  If in the future you have to install from scratch on a new system you'll need to do the same procedure for both your original license key and your Upgrade 4.0 key. 4.  There's always a weird one and here it is.  A few Windows users are not getting "Activate New Products" shortcuts created during installation.  Apparently anti-virus software is preventing the installer from doing its job.  This might not be a problem right now, but it will prove to be an issue at some point in the future.  The solution is to create your own shortcut using the following steps: Disable your anti-virus software before you do anything. Go to your Desktop, right click on the Desktop itself, select NEW->SHORTCUT, use BROWSE to locate the CM EXE that you are trying to fix. The location is then written out. After it type in a single space and then paste this:

      -showui

      Click NEXT and give your new Shortcut a name (doesn't matter what). Confirm that and you're done. Double click on the new Shortcut and you should be prompted to license whatever it is you need to license. At this time we have not identified any issues that have not been worked around.  Let's hope it stays that way Steve
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      Forum Reorganization   10/12/2017

      We've reorganized our Combat Mission Forums to reflect the fact that most of you are now running Engine 4 and that means you're all using the same basic code.  Because of that, there's no good reason to have the discussion about Combat Mission spread out over 5 separate sets of Forums.  There is now one General Discussion area with Tech Support and Scenario/Mod Tips sub forums.  The Family specific Tech Support Forums have been moved to a new CM2 Archives area and frozen in place. You might also notice we dropped the "x" from distinguishing between the first generation of CM games and the second.  The "x" was reluctantly adopted back in 2005 or so because at the time we had the original three CM games on European store shelves entitled CM1, CM2, and CM3 (CMBO, CMBB, and CMAK).  We didn't want to cause confusion so we added the "x".  Time has moved on and we have to, so the "x" is now gone from our public vocabulary as it has been from our private vocabulary for quite a while already.  Side note, Charles *NEVER* used the "x" so now we're all speaking the same language as him.  Which is important since he is the one programming them
Johnlondon125

Am I able to install this on more than one computer?

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I'd like to purchase the Normandy big bundle, I've had my eye on it for years at this point - I've played the demo a bunch and think I'm ready to take the plunge. 

My concern is the DRM - I often play games on my laptop or my desktop, and would like to be able to install this on both. Is this possible?

Sure wish they would just put this on steam :(

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IIRC you can make 3 installs, then contact BF if you need more.

What am not sure about is whether multiple installs on the same computer (for different protocols or versions) count as more than one.

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I have CMBN installed on 3 machines right now, my main desktop, my laptop and my daughter's laptop. She is enjoying LAN battles with me almost as much as I am.

I have CMFI installed on those three as well as my desktop at work. 

My understanding is the game comes with 4 activations initially and a new one is made available every year you own the product. 

As for Steam, Battlefront have stated repeatedly they will not be using the Steam platform.

 As stated before, my daughter and I have been playing LAN battles with each other without issue. I own a copy of Civiliation V and while it is installed on both our laptops, I need to buy a second copy to battle her thanks to Steam's DRM rules. So a big thanks to @Battlefront.com for not using Steam so I can introduce the joys of CM to the next generation. 

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1 hour ago, Hister said:

Is your daughter eligible for marriage? 😉 Kidding aside, you have one awesome daughter. 😊

Not legal age yet so a big NOPE to that one.🔞 But you are right, she sure is awesome!

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Johnlondon125,

Glad the guys got you sorted on the principal issue, and may I congratualte you on bringing new blood into our wonderful ecrack, ahem, CM community!  As for the DRM, CM requires no dice and all effect adjustments are made under the hood!

Regards,

John Kettler 

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Thanks John!

I did have one follow up question - I'm wondering if I should forgo the "big bundle" and just get one of the BN modules, and grab another of maybe the more modern setting? Any suggestions on what to buy to get a good variety? Knowing myself it will take a long, LONG time to get through what is in the big bundle, and I'm thinking I might want to have some diversity when it comes to the setting/time period. 

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As others have commented, you need to decide what era you fancy most.  For modern era you have CMBS set in Europe (emphasizing relatively closer range combat) and (the very inexpensive CMSF) or wait for CMSF2 both similarly set in deserts and towns (of Syria) providing more open, mobile and longer range combat

For WW2, CMBN is probably the most "mature" with the most campaigns, scenarios and mods available.

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13 hours ago, Johnlondon125 said:

Thanks John!

I did have one follow up question - I'm wondering if I should forgo the "big bundle" and just get one of the BN modules, and grab another of maybe the more modern setting? Any suggestions on what to buy to get a good variety? Knowing myself it will take a long, LONG time to get through what is in the big bundle, and I'm thinking I might want to have some diversity when it comes to the setting/time period. 

CM is an addiction. If you are already enjoying the demo enough to buy the game, you will most likely end up buying all of the games anyways.

Only you know what you are able to afford to buy, but if you can afford both the big bundle and Black Sea, I doubt you will be disappointed. If you can't do both and are looking for the most variety, I would suggest the Market Garden module as it gives a new location in Holland, and adds some British units to the base game. It will however, only encourage you to pick up the Commonwealth module soon afterwards....

Each title offers its own unique experience. The game I thought I would enjoy the least, CMFI, is actually my favourite one of them all and I am having a really hard time waiting patiently for the Rome to Victory Module to come out. Currently, the CMFI Gustav Line bundle, offers the widest range of nations, unit types, oddball equipment, terrain, weather, and length of of the war covered. If you want variety, CMFI is where it is at.

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14 hours ago, Heirloom_Tomato said:

CM is an addiction. If you are already enjoying the demo enough to buy the game, you will most likely end up buying all of the games anyways.

Only you know what you are able to afford to buy, but if you can afford both the big bundle and Black Sea, I doubt you will be disappointed. If you can't do both and are looking for the most variety, I would suggest the Market Garden module as it gives a new location in Holland, and adds some British units to the base game. It will however, only encourage you to pick up the Commonwealth module soon afterwards....

Each title offers its own unique experience. The game I thought I would enjoy the least, CMFI, is actually my favourite one of them all and I am having a really hard time waiting patiently for the Rome to Victory Module to come out. Currently, the CMFI Gustav Line bundle, offers the widest range of nations, unit types, oddball equipment, terrain, weather, and length of of the war covered. If you want variety, CMFI is where it is at.

Thank you! I'm a bit unclear - Does Black Sea for $60 include v4, or do I need to buy the upgrade with it?

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Yes this is really a good things this is really simple now no need to install any patches and updates wad really sometime big circus with key numbers and patches,...we are now waiting to CMSF2, screenshots are already very interresting.

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On ‎2‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 10:38 AM, Johnlondon125 said:

I'd like to purchase the Normandy big bundle, I've had my eye on it for years at this point - I've played the demo a bunch and think I'm ready to take the plunge. 

My concern is the DRM - I often play games on my laptop or my desktop, and would like to be able to install this on both. Is this possible?

Sure wish they would just put this on steam :(

Yes, and when you do purchase any of the WWII Big-Bundle Titles, then PM if you need a PBEM Opponent.

Promise I don't bit...Much :-)

Joe

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Johnlondon125,

As my CM colleagues have noted, what CM product/s you spend your money on is a matter of interest in a specific region, weaponry set and combat dynamics. If it's WW II you crave, then the best bang for the buck (figuratively and literally) lies in the CMBN Big Bundle. The idea of buying CMBN and one Module, then buying CMBS is intriguing, but it's going to be expensive, and I'd advise you to think long and hard about who and/or what you're prepared to give up. That loss can fall into the categories of scenarios, unit types, weapons and vehicles, terrain, maps, even mapmaking tools and capabilities, all of which affect the overall potential and richness of your gaming experience. Suggest you also consider what's in the pipeline for the game/s under consideration. As for CMBS, if you try to play it a la WW II, your force will likely be a flaming ruin in a minute or less. Speak from erxperience!  So lethal was the battlefield and so furious the tempo that I was temporarily in despair over having, I felt, wasted hard to come by gaming funds on a game I simply couldn't play and couldn't return. Fortunately, I read the manual and got some great coaching, then gradually built out from there. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to play CM at all for many months, as a result of late onset neurological issues following a head injury years ago. But as you can see, there are other stalwarts ready to confront you on the Field of Mars. 

Heirloom_Tomato,

Don't own CMFI, but I've certainly enjoyed the AARs and the plethora of articles over there. Also, I very much appreciate the variety of vehicles and AFVs in it, not to mention that the Americans have cool camouflage, as opposed to the typical Unbearable Heaviness of OD in CMBN. Especially love that there are mountains, making for a vastly better visual experience than in CMBN and CMBS. I take it no intrepid soul has yet recreated the soul-rending "Fire On The Mountain" scenario from one of the RoW tournaments? That military ordeal was a real nail-biter and a gut-clencher of a scenario, and CMFI could depict it far better than CMx1 ever could.

Regards,

John Kettler 

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On 09/02/2018 at 4:56 PM, Heirloom_Tomato said:

... and my daughter's laptop. She is enjoying LAN battles with me almost as much as I am.

Sound to me you have the kind of relationship with your daughter that I hope to sson have with mine. My daughter is only interested in watching clips on YouTube and loath everything connected to war, which of course is a good point of view, but I hope that she one day will agree to either a hotseat session or a LAN battle.

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5 hours ago, BornGinger said:

Sound to me you have the kind of relationship with your daughter that I hope to sson have with mine. My daughter is only interested in watching clips on YouTube and loath everything connected to war, which of course is a good point of view, but I hope that she one day will agree to either a hotseat session or a LAN battle.

She has started taking History in high school and aced a first day quiz from her teacher. The course covers Canadian history from 1900 onward with a strong focus on both wars. She knew the answers to most of the questions from hearing things from me over and over and over. So suddenly I knew things again and all my books went from being annoying to helpful. As for CM, she asked a question about the differences in tanks, so I made a quick scenario with all the different tanks for each side as the forces so she could see the differences. This led to how they work and why was one better than others. A quick battle with her as Germans with Panthers and a Tiger vs me with Shermans and a Firefly, led to more discussions and several more battles. It has been a bit since we last played but her History course is working through the Great Depression right now so it is only a matter of time before the questions come back and another game is in our future.

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