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Well, my trial version of Elements was running out so I pulled the trigger and got the full version on Amazon at 40% off last night.  So, looks like I am back in the modding game.
Here's what I need help with. I need a list of German Divisions that were in the Western European Theater from October 44  to May 45. Not having to reaserch this will cut at least a month off the time it'll take to get this mod made. So, if you guys want a portrait mod I could use the research help.

(Following cut and pasted from my RT mod thread)
If you choose to do it, this is how I'd like to see the divisions listed;

 For Heer:

(number) Inf Div

(number)Pz Div

(number) Pz Gren Div

For Luftwaffe:

(number) Luft Div

(number) Fals Div

For Waffen SS:

(number) SS Div

(number) SS Pz Div

(number) SS Pz Gren Div

For Volksgrenadier

(Number) Volks Gren Div

Keep all the branches together and div types together like above (Heer Infantry first, Heer Panzers second etc. with the division in numerical order), and I can easily scan through them without jamming my brain up. Seeing that is how I name the bmps when I mod them it's like muscle memory and makes it easier on me.

You guys could keep adding to the list, and when the next guy has new stuff just cut and paste the list into your post with the updated divisions.

An example of what I am talking about would look like this;

85th Inf Div

89th Inf Div

148th Inf Div

2nd Pz Div

9th Pz Div

11th Pz Div
Etc.

When Fizou helped me (with the  RT mod) he got a lot of his info from the Panzer Campaign series, if any of you own them they are a good place to start.

 

 

Mord.

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Mord, glad you're back into the modding groove!  Jason Pipes' site that Aragon is a great starting point. Also, how about using the more common  "Fj" or "FJ" as the abbreviation for Fallschirmjager?

 

 

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I appreciate the link but it doesn't really help. Not trying to sound like a jerk ( I am grateful), but having to wade through all the text to find one division here and one there is the time consuming chore I am trying to alleviate. The way they list everything is all jumbled looking and confusing with lots of info I don't need. It might not sound like that big a deal but it brings on fatigue fairly quick when I have read and read and read (+ the abbreviations and German words, etc.) just to find the couple things I am looking for. But it's on the right track, just needs refinement. Thanks Aragorn!

If they at least had a table with a list of links like this, I could click each one and scan the info to find where they served (I haven't been able to locate one yet):

https://www.feldgrau.com/WW2-German-6th-Infantry-Division

It's still a ton of time but better than the alternative.

I did find three Stackpole books on German OOBs that I am probably gonna put on my Christmas list. Again though, many, many hours of info logging. But on the positive side once this stuff is documented it is done for good, barring additions for divisions that were missed.

 

Yeah, no problem on the FJ abbreviation, I don't know why I didn't think of that before! Duh! Looks better too. VG would also be better for Volksgrenadier.

 

Mord.

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That's closer but I can't read German, LOL. All that needs is to be in English and say what regions they served in and it would be better than the first one.

 

Mord.

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The best overview I know of can be found here:

http://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/de/nodes/907-akte-85-schematische-kriegsgliederung-des-heeres-1944-1945#page/1/mode/grid/zoom/1

It covers the whole Heer from 05.12.1944 up to 31.3.1945 (don't know if there is much around for later stages, since disintegration was accelerating rapidly).
It is also a primary source document produced by the OKH (Oberkommando des Heeres).

Now you would only need somebody to go through this to produce a list like the one you have in mind .. not me though.. ;)

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Thanks, Mike. I took a look. I may use it if nothing better comes up but man, that's a brain breaker. I'd have to use it about five minutes at a time.  LOL.

 

 

Mord.

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14 minutes ago, Mord said:

Thanks, Mike. I took a look. I may use it if nothing better comes up but man, that's a brain breaker. I'd have to use it about five minutes at a time.  LOL.

 

 

Mord.

It's a lot, to be sure. But it includes all the eastern front as well as the Italian, Balkans and Northern (Denmark, Norway) theatres.

If, for CMFB, you're only interested in the direct western front in the classical sense (so, Benelux states and France), it would be quite easily do-able for the months from December 1944 to March 1945.
So I could do one listing for each of the four months, let me know if this would help. It would still be a long list for each month though.

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That would be a great! Just please use the abbreviations I listed above and I then I can just cut and paste them into a master list that I can mod from.

A far as regions go, yep, just concerned with what FB covers, Germany included. Time period would be from October to May but whatever you can do will be good.

Month by month would work, because that way I won't be making seasonal background portraits for units that were destroyed. Or you could just make a regular list and annotate it if that saves time.

Example:

1st Inf Div (Oct-Dec)

I would know that I need to make an Autumn and Winter Background.

or

2nd Inf Div (Oct)

I would know the division never made it past Autumn.

 

Appreciate it very much.

 

Mord.

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OK, so for December 1944 (19.12.1944) it would look like this:

Number Type comment
346 Inf Div Kampfgruppe
711 Inf Div  
712 Inf Div  
2 Fals Div  
84 Inf Div Kampfgruppe
85 Inf Div Kampfgruppe
180 Inf Div  
190 Inf Div  
6 Fals Div Reserve
7 Fals Div  
606 Inf Div Special Purpose
176 Inf Div  
59 Inf Div  
183 Volks Gren Div  
340 Volks Gren Div  
363 Volks Gren Div  
246 Volks Gren Div  
47 Volks Gren Div  
353 Inf Div  
89 Inf Div  
15 Pz Gren Div  
9 Pz Div  
10 SS Pz Div  
344 Inf Div  
272 Volks Gren Div  
326 Volks Gren Div  
277 Volks Gren Div  
3 Pz Gren Div  
12 Volks Gren Div  
3 Fals Div  
12 SS Pz Div  
1 SS Pz Div  
2 SS Pz Div  
9 SS Pz Div  
18 Volks Gren Div  
62 Volks Gren Div  
116 Pz Div  
560 Volks Gren Div  
2 Pz Div  
26 Volks Gren Div  
Lehr Pz Div  
Führer-Begleit-Brigade Pz Div  
5 Fals Div  
352 Volks Gren Div  
276 Volks Gren Div  
212 Volks Gren Div  
9 Volks Gren Div Reserve
167 Volks Gren Div Reserve
79 Volks Gren Div Reserve
Führer-Grenadier-Brigade Pz Div  
416 Inf Div  
19 Volks Gren Div  
719 Inf Div  
559 Volks Gren Div  
347 Inf Div  
36 Volks Gren Div  
17 SS Pz Gren Div  
11 Pz Div  
25 Pz Gren Div Kampfgruppe
361 Volks Gren Div  
21 Pz Div  
245 Inf Div  
256 Volks Gren Div  
265 Inf Div Remains
198 Inf Div  
708 Volks Gren Div  
189 Inf Div  
Panzerbrigade 106 Pz Div  
16 Volks Gren Div  
269 Inf Div  
159 Inf Div  
338 Inf Div  
405 Inf Div Reserve
716 Inf Div Reserve

I have this in an excel file, might be more useful than just this plain text. I can provide this as well if you'd like.
If this looks ok, I could do January to March 1945 in the next couple of days, would be no problem..

 

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@Mord

 

A quick and dirty for Heersgroup B, being the forces in the main used in Wacht am Rhein as quoted by Pallud in BoB Then and Now

I'm not sure whether the 15 Armee units are Infantry Divisons, or VG, or a mix.

HEER

Inf

PzGr

Pz

VG

SS Pz

SS Pz Gr

SS GJ

FJ

OKW Res

FBB

FGB

11

9

10

 

6

 

 

 

3

 

167

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

79

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

257

 

 

 

 

15 Armee

176

15

9

 

 

 

 

 

 

59

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

183

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

340

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

363

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

246

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

47

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

353

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

85

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

344

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

89

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

6 Pz Armee

 

 

 

272

1

 

 

3

 

326

 

 

 

2

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

277

9

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

12

12

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5 Pz Armee

 

 

116

18

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2

62

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lehr

560

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

26

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

7 Armee

 

 

 

352

 

 

 

5

 

 

 

 

276

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

212

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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22 minutes ago, Mad Mike said:

I have this in an excel file, might be more useful than just this plain text. I can provide this as well if you'd like.
If this looks ok, I could do January to March 1945 in the next couple of days, would be no problem..

Plain text is perfect, all I need is the name and number Example: 1st Inf Div, 1st Pz Div, 1st SS Div and special stuff like Führer-Grenadier-Brigade Pz Div, it's a quick short hand for when I am scanning and modding. What you just posted works, I can reorganize it how I need. Excellent! Thanks!

EDITED: OOPS! Any way that you can post the next group without the formatting? I can't cut and paste directly. It's breaking each line into separate pieces.

Again, thanks!

Mord.

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OK, so here is the 19.12.1944 as plain text again:

Number    Type    comment
346    Inf Div    Kampfgruppe
711    Inf Div    
712    Inf Div    
2    Fals Div    
84    Inf Div    Kampfgruppe
85    Inf Div    Kampfgruppe
180    Inf Div    
190    Inf Div    
6    Fals Div    Reserve
7    Fals Div    
606    Inf Div    Special Purpose
176    Inf Div    
59    Inf Div    
183    Volks Gren Div    
340    Volks Gren Div    
363    Volks Gren Div    
246    Volks Gren Div    
47    Volks Gren Div    
353    Inf Div    
89    Inf Div    
15    Pz Gren Div    
9    Pz Div    
10    SS Pz Div    
344    Inf Div    
272    Volks Gren Div    
326    Volks Gren Div    
277    Volks Gren Div    
3    Pz Gren Div    
12    Volks Gren Div    
3    Fals Div    
12    SS Pz Div    
1    SS Pz Div    
2    SS Pz Div    
9    SS Pz Div    
18    Volks Gren Div    
62    Volks Gren Div    
116    Pz Div    
560    Volks Gren Div    
2    Pz Div    
26    Volks Gren Div    
Lehr    Pz Div    
Führer-Begleit-Brigade    Pz Div    
5    Fals Div    
352    Volks Gren Div    
276    Volks Gren Div    
212    Volks Gren Div    
9    Volks Gren Div    Reserve
167    Volks Gren Div    Reserve
79    Volks Gren Div    Reserve
Führer-Grenadier-Brigade    Pz Div    
416    Inf Div    
19    Volks Gren Div    
719    Inf Div    
559    Volks Gren Div    
347    Inf Div    
36    Volks Gren Div    
17    SS Pz Gren Div    
11    Pz Div    
25    Pz Gren Div    Kampfgruppe
361    Volks Gren Div    
21    Pz Div    
245    Inf Div    
256    Volks Gren Div    
265    Inf Div    Remains
198    Inf Div    
708    Volks Gren Div    
189    Inf Div    
Panzerbrigade 106    Pz Div    
16    Volks Gren Div    
269    Inf Div    
159    Inf Div    
338    Inf Div    
405    Inf Div    Reserve
716    Inf Div    Reserve
 

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And this one is for the 21.1.1945:

Number    Type    comment
346    Inf Div    Kampfgruppe
2    Fals Div    
6    Fals Div    
84    Inf Div    Kampfgruppe
180    Inf Div    
190    Inf Div    
606    Inf Div    Special Purpose
176    Inf Div    
59    Inf Div    
183    Volks Gren Div    
353    Inf Div    
363    Volks Gren Div    
85    Inf Div    
272    Volks Gren Div    
62    Volks Gren Div    
27    SS Div    Langemark
28    SS Div    Wallonien
277    Volks Gren Div    
89    Inf Div    
3    Fals Div    
246    Volks Gren Div    
18    Volks Gren Div    
326    Volks Gren Div    
9    SS Pz Div    
15    Pz Gren Div    
560    Volks Gren Div    Remains
26    Volks Gren Div    
Führer-Begleit-Brigade    Pz Div    
340    Volks Gren Div    
187    Volks Gren Div    
5    Fals Div    
3    Pz Gren Div    
9    Pz Div    
Führer-Grenadier-Brigade    Pz Div    
276    Volks Gren Div    
79    Volks Gren Div    
352    Volks Gren Div    
2    Pz Div    
212    Volks Gren Div    
9    Volks Gren Div    
Lehr    Pz Div    
116    Pz Div    Reserve
416    Inf Div    
11    Pz Div    
719    Inf Div    
347    Inf Div    
19    Volks Gren Div    
17    SS Pz Gren Div    
559    Volks Gren Div    
257    Volks Gren Div    
6    SS Div    Mountain
256    Volks Gren Div    
36    Volks Gren Div    
245    Inf Div    
Rässler    Inf Div    
21    Pz Div    
25    Pz Gren Div    
47    Volks Gren Div    
265    Inf Div    Remains
526    Inf Div    
361    Volks Gren Div    Reserve
Panzerbrigade 106    Pz Div    
198    Inf Div    
708    Volks Gren Div    
189    Inf Div    
16    Volks Gren Div    
338    Inf Div    
159    Inf Div    
716    Inf Div    Kampfgruppe
Hütler    Inf Div    
553    Volks Gren Div    
405    Inf Div    
Breisach    Inf Div    
48    Volks Gren Div    
7    Fals Div    
10    SS Pz Div    
1    SS Pz Div    Reserve
2    SS Pz Div    Reserve
12    SS Pz Div    Reserve
 

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German Divisions (December, 1944)

Heer    
59th  Inf Div
84th  Inf Div
85th  Inf Div     
89th  Inf Div
159th  Inf Div
176th  Inf Div
180th  Inf Div     
189th  Inf Div
190th  Inf Div
198th  Inf Div
265th  Inf Div
269th  Inf Div
338th  Inf Div     
344th  Inf Div
346th  Inf Div
347th  Inf Div
353rd  Inf Div
405th  Inf Div     
416th  Inf Div
606th  Inf Div
711th  Inf Div     
712nd  Inf Div
716th  Inf Div
719th  Inf Div

Heer Armor

2nd Pz Div
9th Pz Div
11th Pz Div
21st Pz Div
116th Pz Div
Panzerbrigade 106  Pz Div
Lehr  Pz Div     
Führer-Begleit-Brigade  Pz Div
Führer-Grenadier-Brigade  Pz Div

15th Pz Gren Div
3rd Pz Gren Div
25th Pz Gren Div

Volksgrenadier
9th  VG Div
12th VG Div
16th VG Div
18th  VG Div
19Th VG Div
26th VG
36th VG
47th  VG Div
62nd  VG Div
79th  VG Div
167th  VG Div
183rd  VG Div     
212th  VG Div
246th  VG Div
256Th VG Div
272nd  VG Div     
276th  VG Div
277th  VG Div
326th  VG Div     
340th  VG Div     
352nd  VG Div
361st VG Div
363rd  VG Div
560th  VG Div     
559th  VG Div
708th VG Div

Luftwaffe
2nd FJ Div
3rd FJ Div
5th FJ Div
7th FJ Div
9th FJ Div

Waffen SS

1st  SS Pz Div
2nd  SS Pz Div
9th  SS Pz Div
10th  SS Pz Div
12th  SS Pz Div     

17th SS Pz Gren Div

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Updated: ALL (so far) German Divisions Western Europe Winter 44-45 (12-2-2017)

Heer    
59th Inf Div
84th Inf Div
85th Inf Div     
89th Inf Div
159th Inf Div
176th Inf Div
180th Inf Div     
189th Inf Div
190th Inf Div
198th Inf Div
245th Inf Div    
265th Inf Div
269th Inf Div
338th Inf Div     
344th Inf Div
346th Inf Div
347th Inf Div
353rd Inf Div
405th Inf Div     
416th Inf Div
526th Inf Div    
606th Inf Div
711th Inf Div     
712nd Inf Div
716th Inf Div
719th Inf Div
Breisach Inf Div
Hütler Inf Div
Rässler Inf Div    

Armor
2nd Pz Div
9th Pz Div
11th Pz Div
21st Pz Div
116th Pz Div
Panzerbrigade 106  Pz Div
Lehr  Pz Div     
Führer-Begleit-Brigade  Pz Div
Führer-Grenadier-Brigade  Pz Div

15th Pz Gren Div
3rd Pz Gren Div
25th Pz Gren Div

Volksgrenadier
9th VG Div
12th VG Div
16th VG Div
18th VG Div
19Th VG Div
26th VG Div
36th VG Div
47th VG Div
62nd VG Div
79th VG Div
167th VG Div
183rd VG Div     
187th VG Div
212th VG Div
246th VG Div
256Th VG Div
257th VG Div
272nd VG Div     
276th VG Div
277th VG Div
326th VG Div     
340th VG Div     
352nd VG Div
553rd VG Div  
361st VG Div
363rd VG Div
560th VG Div     
559th VG Div
708th VG Div

Luftwaffe
2nd FJ Div
3rd FJ Div
5th FJ Div
7th FJ Div
9th FJ Div

Waffen SS
27th  SS Gren Div (Langemark)
28th  SS Gren Div (Wallonien)

1st  SS Pz Div
2nd  SS Pz Div
9th  SS Pz Div
10th  SS Pz Div
12th  SS Pz Div     

17th SS Pz Gren Div     

6th  SS Mtn Div

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Looking good, Mord, but would you mind adding the 34th SS Gren. Div. (Landstorm Nederland) please? A rather unknown unit, but as you can see in the second link it was involved in quite some fighting in the South of the Netherlands in 1944 and 1945.  It had it's baptism of fire at Arnhem during Market Garden btw. 

http://www.axishistory.com/books/119-germany-waffen-ss/germany-waffen-ss-divisions/1326-34-ss-freiwilligen-grenadier-division-landstorm-nederland

http://www.waffen-ss.nl/lstormgesch-e.php

http://www.waffen-ss.nl/harsfoto.php

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No problem. Any division that survived past CMBN's September end date will be added. So, October 44 until the end of the war for this mod. It's funny 'cause I was just looking at that one earlier today, it was the only SS infantry portrait in all of the CMBN mod. Everything else SS, was armor and armored infantry. No worries my friend! I will make it as complete as possible.

 

Mord.

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I got the notification you posted and I was gonna type the same thing to you. That's funny! But I guess it's day time for you. I never realized you were in England. Has your location always said that? If it has I am getting as senile as Emrys.

 

Mord.

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For February 1945 (10.02.1945), I only looked at units which have not been mentioned before. This is what I came up with:

Wadehn (8) Fals Div
805 Inf Div Special Purpose
905 Inf Div Special Purpose

So, not so many additions.

Of course, some units had left the Western Front by this time, most notably the 6. Panzerarmee with all the SS Panzer Divisions, which went into the Eastern Front reserves.

Will do March 1945 a little bit later on.

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Excellent. At this point because they will be using a winter background all I need is the extras to fill in the what's missing. So, that works great.

I am going to start researching the CMBN portraits to find out which ones made it past September if any. Most likely there'll be bleed over, I am counting around 88 divisions just from what we have gathered here.

 

Mord.

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