Hister Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 11 hours ago, Mord said: Send him a link to a good play through. Trying the CMBO/BB/AK demo is quite a different experience than playing BN or FI. This guy MUST be MADE to UNDERSTAND!  Mord. He he. đ CM video suggestions welcome. What would be the best way to captivate his mind in the first two minutes? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xorg_Xalargsky Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Hister said: CM video suggestions welcome. What would be the best way to captivate his mind in the first two minutes? Anything from Josey Wales or Usually Hapless! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOS:96B2P Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Hister said: He he. đ CM video suggestions welcome. What would be the best way to captivate his mind in the first two minutes? One of the videos by Colonel Paulding at Armchair General. Hearing a retired Colonel talk favorably about Combat Mission and use the game to demonstrate real world tactics should impress him.  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josey Wales Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I think he needs updating if he's basing his opinion of CM on series 1. I'm happy for someone who's already made contact with him to send him a link to one of my vids, the Bear Claws AAR seems most popular. Or as @MOS:96B2P says any of the Armchair General series.   1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squish1962 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) I don't know if this is the thread for this but I wanted to bring up one aspect of realism that many people get wrong. That is; the expectation that men and vehicles will do things the way you want them to. Many war gamers get upset if the squad of infantry you sent forward in a wedge formation don't form an actual wedge or one of the tanks of the troop you sent forward goes left around a small hill while the other 3 go right. Or the common "One of my soldier stood up in the middle of a firefight and was killed...stupid A.I. I wish they would program the A.I. better!!!" They usually blame it on the developer I am happy when the A.I. do dumb things because, I hate to break it to you but in real life Soldiers do stupid things all the time. I could write pages and pages of examples from my 25 years as an infantry soldier. It is realistic to have to deal with the frustration of things not going as planned. As a leader on the battlefield you have to deal with dumb asses all the time. I get upset when everyone and their dog complains about these things to the game developers and they in turn waste many hours trying to program the men, planes, tanks, etc. to do things "perfectly" This is realistic in everyday life. Can you remember telling a friend to, "Look to the right." and they look to the left? Of course you can; things like that happen all the time. No human that I know is perfect. Add stress and pressure to the situation and the seemingly "Dumb" things people do ramps up a notch or two. Instead of blaming the game developers when things don't work as you think they should take it as a challenge to work around. I do and, quite frankly, it adds a level of realism that those "perfect" games do not. I learned a long time ago that common sense is not that common.     Edited November 22, 2017 by squish1962 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Welcome on board, Squish. Your RL military insights are appreciated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 13 hours ago, squish1962 said: I don't know if this is the thread for this but I wanted to bring up one aspect of realism that many people get wrong. That is; the expectation that men and vehicles will do things the way you want them to. Spot freakin' on! 13 hours ago, squish1962 said: I get upset when everyone and their dog complains about these things to the game developers and they in turn waste many hours trying to program the men, planes, tanks, etc. to do things "perfectly" Thankfully this developer does not engage in that because they believe what your wrote above as much as you do. We do get the occasional complaints though. Â 13 hours ago, squish1962 said: Instead of blaming the game developers when things don't work as you think they should take it as a challenge to work around. I do and, quite frankly, it adds a level of realism that those "perfect" games do not. I learned a long time ago that common sense is not that common. +1 to that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IICptMillerII Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 I'm a big fan of both the Armchair General videos and Josey Wales. If I could add another video in it would be this one by @PanzerPajamas: Â Â I think it shows off some good combined arms with some varied and fun equipment. It also shows off an often ignored theater of the war. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOS:96B2P Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 hour ago, IICptMillerII said: I'm a big fan of both the Armchair General videos and Josey Wales. If I could add another video in it would be this one by @PanzerPajamas: I think it shows off some good combined arms with some varied and fun equipment. It also shows off an often ignored theater of the war. +1 Yep. I'm subscribed to both @PanzerPajamas and @Josey Wales. Both excellent videos. I was just re-watching the Palermo video yesterday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hister Posted November 24, 2017 Author Share Posted November 24, 2017 I contacted him again explaining you guys suggested that I present him a couple of videos. Thanx to your suggestions I've sent him Josey's Bear Claws AAR, Road to Wiltz by Usually Happless and Armchair General videos. He gave me the thumb up. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOS:96B2P Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 45 minutes ago, Hister said: I contacted him again explaining you guys suggested that I present him a couple of videos. Thanx to your suggestions I've sent him Josey's Bear Claws AAR, Road to Wiltz by Usually Happless and Armchair General videos. He gave me the thumb up. +1 Good job!!!  0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 His next video better be about how Combat Mission gets war RIGHT! Good job, Hister! You broke the Austrian! Mord. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hister Posted November 24, 2017 Author Share Posted November 24, 2017 (edited) Ha ha, thanx. Do not hold your breath though, thumbs up might be just in order to get rid of the annoying fly - aka me... We'll see down the pipeline if this bears fruit. Again, thank you for the youtube suggestions. Josey Wales is now my favorite CM youtuber - didn't know about him for some reason beforehand.  Edit: Seeing how he asks for support while he makes his content do you think any CM guys here would be willing to gift him a CM title in order to cement the deal with him? Edited November 24, 2017 by Hister 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hister Posted November 24, 2017 Author Share Posted November 24, 2017 (edited) It was the "annoying fly" scenario in the end unfortunately. Mission failed. He followed with this after his thumb up: "I don't have time, please stop bugging me about combat mission, as mentioned before, I get a mail/message about this game all the time, it is just annoying."It's a loss for him and for his viewers I think but you can't push someone so if you are reading this do not send him any CM requests. The man has spoken. Edited November 24, 2017 by Hister 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 I don't like him any more... Â Mord. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hister Posted November 24, 2017 Author Share Posted November 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Mord said: I don't like him any more... Â Mord. Me neither. I will now limit myself to only look every second of his awesome videos. Being more serious though I do think that by now he should have picked the idea CM games would be a perfect tool for his video creation process. Seems like a very stubborn guy with a fixed idea he has no time to play it while it could enhance his video creation quality 5 fold (but I understand it is time consuming to get the grip of the game and making something useful out of it). He shouldn't have asked for game suggestions in the first place and now he is complaining about the game being suggested to him.Guess he stumbled upon too enthusiastic viewers. Â Â 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eremitae Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 That is indeed very sad to hear. Â I was so excited that maybe we could convince him to try it. I love his content. Heck, he was streaming Hearts of Iron 3 last week. Figured he would at least give an opinion from the videos or something considering he is focused on this type of material. Oh well, thanks for trying guys. Maybe one day down the road we'll see something. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 He is still making content and does not want to try basically *the* war game that tries to portray a realistic combat situation? I figured this guy was not writing any more or something. How can you go on and on about wargames getting things wrong and not try ones you haven't tried yet? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hister Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 9 hours ago, IanL said: He is still making content and does not want to try basically *the* war game that tries to portray a realistic combat situation? I figured this guy was not writing any more or something. He still is.That is why his answer surprised all so much. 9 hours ago, IanL said: How can you go on and on about wargames getting things wrong and not try ones you haven't tried yet? He's Austrian... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrTom Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 44 minutes ago, Hister said: He's Austrian... Hey! Well... Probably... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hister Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 1 hour ago, HerrTom said: Hey! Well... Probably... What I meant with that is he probably has his work preplanned a year in advance. They are some meticilous and methodical those pesky Austrians. Hard to adapt. đđ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougPhresh Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Speaking as an artilleryman, games overemphasize small arms. In the 20th century crew-served weapons accounted for 90% of casualties. CM gets this right. Machine guns, mortars and artillery are the big killers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) 19 hours ago, DougPhresh said: Speaking as an artilleryman, games overemphasize small arms. In the 20th century crew-served weapons accounted for 90% of casualties. CM gets this right. Machine guns, mortars and artillery are the big killers. Isn't this mostly because the artillery toll includes lots of shelling of rear areas, troops during road movement, etc? Whereas CM only deals with the actual battles where soldiers get close enough to use their rifles. Edited November 27, 2017 by Bulletpoint 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warts 'n' all Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Bulletpoint said: Isn't this mostly because the artillery toll includes lots of shelling of rear areas, troops during road movement, etc? Whereas CM only deals with the actual battles where soldiers get close enough to use their rifles. I think you're spot on there. Hitting rear areas around breakfast time was fairly common practice. And over the years I've read quite a few accounts of troops getting hit by mortars and arty "on the way to the start line", which is not something that CM can replicate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hister Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 21 hours ago, DougPhresh said: Speaking as an artilleryman, games overemphasize small arms. In the 20th century crew-served weapons accounted for 90% of casualties. CM gets this right. Machine guns, mortars and artillery are the big killers.  1 hour ago, Bulletpoint said: Isn't this mostly because the artillery toll includes lots of shelling of rear areas, troops during road movement, etc? Whereas CM only deals with the actual battles where soldiers get close enough to use their rifles. Doug said CM gets thing right in this regard so it is not that he is saying CM is not getting things right - even on the start line casualty source are portrayed right in CM according to him.  0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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