Apocal Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Both mid and early variants, the commander's face is crammed right against the hatch when unbuttoned. Surely this can't be intended? I haven't tested to see if it makes him immune to small arms fire from the front, but if that actually occurs, just pretend I never reported this, lol. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 He's actually kissing the wonderful Soviet steel protection. Or perhaps fallen asleep with his head leaning on the periscope. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vergeltungswaffe Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Too much vodka 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xorg_Xalargsky Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) I've just tested this. The IS-1, IS-2 (early), IS-2 (mid), and IS-2 (late) all have the same issue. From estimated measurements, it seems that the commander shares the height used by the T-34 tanks with a cupola, perhaps a case of hasty copy-pasta. In a small not-so-scientific test, German riflemen were able to kill the commanders of the 4 previously mentioned tanks from the frontal quarter. Edited August 9, 2017 by Xorg_Xalargsky 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocal Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 Remember the little "bug" where one of the crewmen was facing ninety degrees off where he was supposed to, and therefore not taking advantage of some of the tank's optics like they were supposed to? I wonder if his face being crammed right up against the hatch affects spotting...? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xorg_Xalargsky Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Hmm, from a real quick n' dirty test, it seems like the cupola's hatches don't effect the spotting ability of the tank commander. I had 4 IS-2 (mid) look at German rifle squads ~120 meters away in grassy terrain. 2 of them had the commander turned out. The 2 turned out tanks were able to spot all members of their respective enemy squads after a turn where the two buttoned-up were only able to spot 1-3 members. I'd say it's quite likely that opened vehicle doors and hatches don't affect spotting. Likely for gameplay or coding reasons. Still not sure about hitboxes though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocal Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Xorg_Xalargsky said: Hmm, from a real quick n' dirty test, it seems like the cupola's hatches don't effect the spotting ability of the tank commander. I had 4 IS-2 (mid) look at German rifle squads ~120 meters away in grassy terrain. 2 of them had the commander turned out. The 2 turned out tanks were able to spot all members of their respective enemy squads after a turn where the two buttoned-up were only able to spot 1-3 members. I'd say it's quite likely that opened vehicle doors and hatches don't affect spotting. Likely for gameplay or coding reasons. Still not sure about hitboxes though. I'm running quick and dirty tests as well, they seem to support what you're saying. Not surprising; modeling the hatch's position in relation to the commander's face and resulting LOS blockage would be the most ridiculous detail I can imagine in a company-level wargame. Edited August 9, 2017 by Apocal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynaman216 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 All I can think is that one good bump in the road and the guy would lose all his teeth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splinty Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 On 8/20/2017 at 5:38 PM, Dynaman216 said: All I can think is that one good bump in the road and the guy would lose all his teeth. He'd probably get a flattened nose as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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