John Kettler Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Brother George informed me of the first, and I found the second. Had some pointed words on pricing regarding the letter. Data on World War II Tank Engagements: Involving the U.S. Third and Fourth Armored Divisions Paperback – February 18, 2012 by David C. Hardison (Author)https://www.amazon.com/Data-World-War-Tank-Engagements/dp/1470079062/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8$18.95 Looks promising. Have read BRL reports in the past. The people there don't mess around. This one also looks interesting, but I've decided that it was hand lettered in gold and embellishes with rubies, given the price! $100 for 52 pages!A Survey of Tank Warfare in Europe from D-Day to 12 August 1944: Army Operational Research Group (AORG) Memorandum No. C6 Paperback – January 10, 2012 by H. G. Gee (Author) https://www.amazon.com/Survey-Warfare-Europe-D-Day-August/dp/1468192396/ref=pd_sim_14_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=W8EV7VQ4JNTYVATB95ET $99.95, with used copies at the same price! The BRL report was a first trawl through evidently extensive tank engagement data scattered through vast amounts of records. The Look inside for the first is a travesty: cover, table of contents, two pages with nothing but a single colophon and one page with two photos! By contrast, the second Look Inside is actually useful, in that the sample is long enough to provide a two pages of the Abstract. From it, we learn the average long range engagement was 1200 yards and the average short range engagement was at 400 yards. Roughly on par with the OR conclusion regarding ASW from aircraft that clean perspex resulted in more sub spottings, thus, kills is one in the AORG in which the cosmic revelation is made that British tanks sustained more losses in open country! Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 1 hour ago, John Kettler said: $99.95, with used copies at the same price! I notice that Amazon does not offer an electronic version (Kindle) of this book. It might be worth a search to find out if anyone else does. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertFox Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 On 30.07.2017 at 5:52 AM, John Kettler said: A Survey of Tank Warfare in Europe from D-Day to 12 August 1944: Army Operational Research Group (AORG) Memorandum No. C6 Paperback – January 10, 2012 by H. G. Gee (Author) https://www.amazon.com/Survey-Warfare-Europe-D-Day-August/dp/1468192396/ref=pd_sim_14_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=W8EV7VQ4JNTYVATB95ET $99.95, with used copies at the same price! The BRL report was a first trawl through evidently extensive tank engagement data scattered through vast amounts of records. The Look inside for the first is a travesty: cover, table of contents, two pages with nothing but a single colophon and one page with two photos! By contrast, the second Look Inside is actually useful, in that the sample is long enough to provide a two pages of the Abstract. From it, we learn the average long range engagement was 1200 yards and the average short range engagement was at 400 yards. Roughly on par with the OR conclusion regarding ASW from aircraft that clean perspex resulted in more sub spottings, thus, kills is one in the AORG in which the cosmic revelation is made that British tanks sustained more losses in open country! Regards, John Kettler Going directly to the original source material, in this case, can spare you a lot of money. Look here: http://lmharchive.ca/panzers-and-the-western-allies/ Both studies by Major G. Gee and Major J.M. Murdoch Mitcheson published 1946 and 1952 downloadable as pdf thanks to the Laurier Archives. cheers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 DesertFox, Appreciate the info, and my apologies for the rather horribly mangled and unclear title I wrote! Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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