Freyberg Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 As a Brit-o-phile, I don't mind playing from the US side - they're great; I play Germans once in a while just for a change; and the Soviets have a simple beauty to them; but I love playing British and Commonwealth forces. As such, I'm waiting eagerly for the CMFI upgrade (my favourite title) and the rumoured 1945 add-on to that; and I have been playing CMBN pretty much consistently since it came out. I like CMFB - the maps and AI are excellent; the scenarios and campaigns are fiendish - but I would love to see a British or Commonwealth module. I find the British forces, with their miscellany of tanks, their quaint, highly varied unit structures and their slightly undergunned troops bolstered by Sten guns, Bren guns and the fearsome 17-pounder, extremely fun and fascinating to play. There was talk of modules to CMFB a while back. Is Commonwealth Forces on the cards? I asked the chaps and they say they're ready to bust out of Normandy and Holland 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vergeltungswaffe Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 I'm looking forward to it as well. It will be fun to replace the American troops in all the bulge scenarios with CW troops and enjoy a totally different flavor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armorgunner Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Yes indeed, I agree. After Brexit and all. It will be fun to kill the Britts!. Just kidding . But what would the first module be? If not the Commonwealth? The second module, that one would take FB to the end of the war, right? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 What might be interesting would be a campaign set a few months earlier where SHAEF and Montgomery come to their senses, recognize that Market-Garden just is not on, and 21st. AG commits all available force to crushing the German 15th. Armee, clearing South Beveland and Walcheren posthaste and bringing Antwerp online six to eight weeks earlier. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) Mike, that's an operational level concept and problem, which I don't believe translates well to CM's scale. BFC don't have anything to offer here, since we already have all the tools - units^, equipment, terrain, etc - to make tactical battles (or recreate the actual battles) based on a hypothetical early clearance of the Channel Coast the the Scheldt Estuary, and it'd be fairly straightforward to string some together into a CM campaign, but IMO it wouldn't really have anything to say about the merits of broad front vs narrow front, or the advantages of different weightings for different objectives within 21 Army Group. Freyberg, I'd be astonished in FB didn't eventually include a CW module ... or two - one for the UK, and one for the Pol/Cdn/Dutch/Czech/Neth/FFL, etc?. Timespan is a consideration too - do Oct through May 45 in one hit, or Oct-Feb 45 - which is basically what FB covers now- followed by Mar-May? Interesting decisions ahoy! ^ except the Commandos! Edited March 18, 2017 by JonS 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warts 'n' all Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Sgt. Fitzsimmons pokes his podgy finger at the map. "Field Marshall, where in God's heaven is South Beveland? Is it anywheres near Zuid Beveland?" Monty :- "You really don't need to bother yourself with things like that, Fitzsimmons" Sgt F:- "Like feck I don't. John Martins here in Antwerp do a nice drop of 8% Guinness. I'll be jiggered if I'm gonna upsticks to somewheres where I canna get meself a decent drop of the black stuff." Monty:- "You Catholics. You should be teetotal like me and my fellow Anglicans". Sgt F:- "Teetotal, me arse. If it wasn't for me slipping Rommel a Mickey Finn in his lager, we'd still be stuck in the sand. And for the last time, will yers tell these here people to stop keep calling me a fecking Brit". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user1000 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 What exactly did the British do after bulge in ww2? Headed back home. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armorgunner Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 50 minutes ago, user1000 said: What exactly did the British do after bulge in ww2? Headed back home. You could say that, that was their first Brexit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSj Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 To be fair, they had been fighting pretty much on their own since 1940, so it was only appropriate that the Americans took on a greater responsibility during the later part of the war. :-) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockinHarry Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 1 hour ago, user1000 said: What exactly did the British do after bulge in ww2? Headed back home. However that one could compare, but I´d very much like creating CW missions for Operation Blackcock, Veritable and Plunder. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warts 'n' all Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 As far as I know Paddy and his mates slogged their guts through the Reichswald. Crossed the Maas, the Waal, and the Rhein. Liberated Holland, Drenthe, Gelderland and Friesland. And then took Bremen, and Hamburg. Not what I'd call heading back home. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 To Warts' list you might add beating the Soviets to Lübeck and the liberation of Denmark. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warts 'n' all Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, Michael Emrys said: To Warts' list you might add beating the Soviets to Lübeck and the liberation of Denmark. Michael You're spot on M.E. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StieliAlpha Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 3 hours ago, Michael Emrys said: To Warts' list you might add beating the Soviets to Lübeck and the liberation of Denmark. Michael Yep, it sounds like somebody has a very limited view of late war proceedings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Someone is just a troll. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) Don't forget liberating Belsen and the subsequent 'clean-up'.....My maternal grandfather had the life-changing joy of participating in that particular shambles. Edited March 20, 2017 by Sgt.Squarehead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armorgunner Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I believe the Britts left the mainland of Europe, only when cold war one was over. And contributed to the Victory in the west, almost as much as the Yanks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StieliAlpha Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, Armorgunner said: I believe the Britts left the mainland of Europe, only when cold war one was over. And contributed to the Victory in the west, almost as much as the Yanks. Eh, even that is wrong. In my home town in Germany, we still have British troops. I would say they came as garrison and stayed as friends. Regarding the contribution, I leave it to others, to comment how much it was worth to bear the worst for four years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StieliAlpha Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I forgot to say, they stayed as NATO partners, without asking for anything, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armorgunner Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 55 minutes ago, StieliAlpha said: Eh, even that is wrong. In my home town in Germany, we still have British troops. I would say they came as garrison and stayed as friends. Regarding the contribution, I leave it to others, to comment how much it was worth to bear the worst for four years. Oh, I´m sorry. I did not know that the Britts had been there since 1945. I thought that they left after the cold war was over. Did they, and are back? Or did they never leave? And that they are our friends, that i know for sure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combatintman Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I spent 8 years in Germany with the British Army between 1990 and 2008 as well as exercising there on numerous occasions in 1988 and 1989. Wikipedia linky: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Forces_Germany When I first went there, 1 BR Corps had three armoured divisions stationed in Germany and there was still the best part of a division there when I left Germany for the last time in 2008. And I'll bite regarding @user1000s asinine remark. In just one Commonwealth War Graves Cemetery alone in Germany (Rheinberg) there are 343 war graves for persons who fit the description 'British Army' and date of death between 01 Jan 45 and 08 May 45. For those interested here's where to look: http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead.aspx 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StieliAlpha Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Combatintman said: I spent 8 years in Germany with the British Army between 1990 and 2008 as well as exercising there on numerous occasions in 1988 and 1989. Wikipedia linky: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Forces_Germany When I first went there, 1 BR Corps had three armoured divisions stationed in Germany and there was still the best part of a division there when I left Germany for the last time in 2008. And I'll bite regarding @user1000s asinine remark. In just one Commonwealth War Graves Cemetery alone in Germany (Rheinberg) there are 343 war graves for persons who fit the description 'British Army' and date of death between 01 Jan 45 and 08 May 45. For those interested here's where to look: http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead.aspx Then you should know my hometown Paderborn and the Senne quite well. But unfortunately you were a little to late for the epic table soccer event in "the Pub around the corner". Two drunk students vs BAR. Back in '86, I think. Those were the days. Oh, how we wiped your comrades out. ?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 2 hours ago, StieliAlpha said: Two drunk students vs BAR. Back in '86, I think. Those were the days. Oh, how we wiped your comrades out. ?? I don't think is advisable to be operating a Browning Automatic Rifle while drunk. Is that how you wiped out those comrades? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Wenman Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, StieliAlpha said: BAR I think he might have meant BAOR - British Army of the Rhine. I loved my time in Germany with the Army and never ceased to be amazed with what the locals put up with. Major exercises were a sight to see with all kinds of kit bashing up the countryside. These were not on training areas, but the public countryside. The war had to stop at weekends though ! As I remember it this was about 7.00 am in the morning in some random village. Challenger II parked outside someones house ! P Edited March 21, 2017 by Pete Wenman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warts 'n' all Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I seem to remember a documentary about celebrities who had done National Service, and one of them possibly Frank Bough rearranged some poor local's house with his tank. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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