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11 hours ago, TheForwardObserver said:

@HerrTom We're two batteries short of all the Division's organic FA.

Is this at all Realistic? A Single Battalion sucking Up that much Divarty? v. a single OpFor Mech Inf Batt ? 

Im Not Complaining, just Seems A Little. . . Extreme. . . 

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2 hours ago, TheForwardObserver said:

The question you should be asking is whether it's real at all.

I came to this thread for artillery and glorious smack talk, and now I get some philosophy too?

I think things just got real. B)

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2 hours ago, TheForwardObserver said:

@kinophile The question you should be asking is whether it's real at all.

7 Batteries of Paladins firing in support of a single maneuver battalion is unusual to say the least.  

Hey now, the break through to Bastogne was like three battalions of artillery firing in support of what was basically a improvised combined arms battalion.  

But yeah little weird.   

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9 hours ago, TheForwardObserver said:

In the end the commander gets what the commander needs.  A division going into action will have their organic FA btlns/mortars and an attached 1-5 btlns of 155/HIMARS/MLRS.  Depending on who is doing what, anything's possible.

 

Totally. Like the Bastogne comment, if Division decided you were the decisive operation, then congrats, welcome to steel rain town.  .

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15 minutes in, 1 hour and 45 minutes left.  All initial reconnaissance objectives have been met.  Blue Casualties are at 7 personnel, 0 vics.  2 from indirect fire, 5 from direct fire.  We've taken approximately 235 rounds of enemy artillery and mortars, and have identified the positions of 14 enemy vehicles, as well as accompanying infantry.  Red casualties are estimated at 7 vics destroyed and 25 casualties.  We are now entering operational phase Arnhem auslöschen.

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TheForwardObserver,

235 rounds of artillery fire? In 15 minutes?  Holy Toledo, Cincinnati and Akron! With that volume of incoming artillery and mortar fire, I'm surprised you have a force left. For perspective, at the Battle of An Loc, during the Vietnam War, during the siege there the minimum NVA artillery fire/day was 1000 rounds. You're talking a quarter of that in 15 minutes. For a more typical volume of fire, 2000 rounds/day, it's still an eighth!

http://www.thebattleofkontum.com/stars/363.html

(Fair Use)

"Hanoi's 5th Division thereupon moved up. The 5th's commander had boastfully promised to take An Loc in three day's time. He tried hard between May 10 and May 15. After that the 5th North Vietnamese Division had also been expanded. It, too, had to be pulled back.

That leaves only one point to cover. The miserable little unfortified town has an area of perhaps three square kilometers. Even when there was no ground assaults, the enemy artillery continued -each day never less than 1,000 rounds; in normal times, generally about 2,000 rounds; and when an assault was coming 7 to 8,000 rounds."

Regards,

John Kettler

Edited by John Kettler

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TheForwardObserver,

Absolutely hilarious, but are they fitted with BLUFOR Trackers? They are BLUFOR, right?

(radio crackles, unless it doesn't these days)

"Saber 16. In the event a T-rex shows up your are Weapons Free. Repeat. Weapons Free."

"Saber Xray out."

panzersaurkrautwerfer,

Shouldn't the ammo be MPAT?

Regards,

John Kettler

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panzersaurkrautwerfer,

Understood. Appreciate explanation. Also apologize because I wrote the wrong round. Should've written AMP. Quite good discussion of its capabilities, tactical leverage and logistical impact here. Yet again I shudder at how tremendously innovative we humans are when it comes to weapons.

https://www.army.mil/article/98946/Army_developing_new_120mm_AMP_tank_round

Regards,

John Kettler

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2 minutes ago, sburke said:

Fisters?  Really, you guys allowed anyone to call you fisters?  Sounds like some grunt is pranking you. 

What do you call the second group of fisters to show up?  MoFOs?

Late. . . . 

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