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Russian army under equipped?

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Im sorry for not providing pictures. I will, i know where i reading it. Not to day though, as i am out taking more than a few beers right now. But it's a somewhatt trustfull sources,  and its pictures from allround the airbase after the strike.

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@Armorgunner Enjoy yourself friend. No need to worry about it now. But if you do find those pictures, make sure that you hold on to them; they would be worth a fortune! Cheers!

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I just don't see it:( Please lmk if you can find it when you sober up. Skål!

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This was not the pictures i talked about. I will look them up tomorrow. But this shows atleast the Russian precens at the airbase.

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There seems to be a debate if the destryed trucks on pictures from the airbase is Pantsir, or Syrian Fateh 110/M600. And I must say, after looking at the pictures. It is most likely a destroyed Fateh. Even though syria operates 2 differente versions of Pantsir. One with PESA radar, and one with probably an AESA radar from a later batch.

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Welcome back. I tend to agree; I did not see anything resembling a Pantsir there (although the resolution makes it difficult to say for sure. Based on what I've read - SAA Pnatsirs are positioned around Damascus to protect key installations and political leadership.

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22 hours ago, Sgt.Squarehead said:

It seems possible that Kurganets-25 has been cancelled, hopefully one of our Russian comrades can confirm?

http://gurkhan.blogspot.co.uk/2017/08/blog-post_10.html#more

The origin of this 'news' is regional news site https://kikonline.ru/2017/08/09/kogda-re****sya-sudba-kmz/

Give attention to the moment that those words about K-25 were said by the former deputy of chief engineer-specialist of mass production. From the beginning some old specialists and engineers didn't like the concepts of new armored platforms, some had another projects and concepts and they had been out of the work. Actually it is just his personally opinion, which was sounded during the meeting of veterans of industry on the problem of KMZ. There isn't official info about the cancellation of Kurganets-25. And some recent news about KMZ and K-25 - http://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=1&nid=458749

It seems to be an internal quarrel in our military industry as we had it in 2008-2011. At this moment our leaders are conducting some strange changes concerning state corporations (RosTec for instance) in the field of military industry. And we have very weird situation about KMZ, RosTec and CTP, the problem of managment... All it looks as if they'd plan to form real industry monster (on the base of RosTec). Some awared of this problem persons say that K-25 is OK, but It is very hard for me to give you clear information.

 

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On 12.08.2017 at 10:17 PM, Sgt.Squarehead said:

It seems possible that Kurganets-25 has been cancelled, hopefully one of our Russian comrades can confirm?

http://gurkhan.blogspot.co.uk/2017/08/blog-post_10.html#more

This is the personal opinion of the former engineer. But at the same time,  Defense Ministry of Russian Federation sent the draft for revision, since there are claims to dimensions especially in height.

Это личное мнение бывшего инженера . Но при этом МО РФ отправило проект на доработку , так как есть претензии к габаритам особенно по высоте .

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It's interesting what RUS MoD plans to do with so many different platforms. New ones: Boomerang, Kurganets, T-14/T-15, a multitude of light wheeled vehicles. A whole slew of older wheeled and tracked platforms that are here to stay for the decades - BTR-82A, BMP-3, BMD-4, Rakushka, T-72, T-90 etc. That's many times more than US Army has yet RUS economy is light years behind American one...

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6 hours ago, IMHO said:

It's interesting what RUS MoD plans to do with so many different platforms. New ones: Boomerang, Kurganets, T-14/T-15, a multitude of light wheeled vehicles. A whole slew of older wheeled and tracked platforms that are here to stay for the decades - BTR-82A, BMP-3, BMD-4, Rakushka, T-72, T-90 etc. That's many times more than US Army has yet RUS economy is light years behind American one...

We already have very lots of different platforms - T-72, T-80 and T-90; BMP-2\3, BTR-80\82; BMD-2, BMD-3, BMD-4 and BMD-4M, BTR-D, Rakushka, a multitude of light wheeled vehicles such as Gaz Tigh, UAZ, Kamaz and so on. Soviet Union had real nightmare - three MBT and so on. But until the end of 1980th US had the same problem - M48, M60 and M1, for example. New toys come and old toys stay on in servise.

About economy. We ourselves produce the whole set of military units (MBT, APC, AFV, artillery, helicopters, jets, missiles, satellites, military high-tech and so on) and if Saudi have to pay dollars to buy military equipment, then we have national currency. In many ways our tanks, BMP, Su or Migs and other toys are cheaper that western ones only because our engineers ans workers have wages, which are lower than western ones (miracles don't happen!). I mean that it would be more reasonable to account military budgets based on purchasing power parity. 

Take to account that russian economy are not real market economy. Therefore it is very hard to forecast the real capabilities of russian MoD. For instance in the Soviet Union we had very complex finance system, which used non-cash currency (units of account) and common rouble, and they didn't cross; that's why it is impossible to account real soviet military budget.

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5 minutes ago, Sophist_13 said:

We already have very lots of different platforms - T-72, T-80 and T-90; BMP-2\3, BTR-80\82; BMD-2, BMD-3, BMD-4 and BMD-4M, BTR-D, Rakushka, a multitude of light wheeled vehicles such as Gaz Tigh, UAZ, Kamaz and so on. Soviet Union had real nightmare - three MBT and so on. But until the end of 1980th US had the same problem - M48, M60 and M1, for example. New toys come and old toys stay on in servise.

About economy. We ourselves produce the whole set of military units (MBT, APC, AFV, artillery, helicopters, jets, missiles, satellites, military high-tech and so on) and if Saudi have to pay dollars to buy military equipment, then we have national currency. In many ways our tanks, BMP, Su or Migs and other toys are cheaper that western ones only because our engineers ans workers have wages, which are lower than western ones (miracles don't happen!). I mean that it would be more reasonable to account military budgets based on purchasing power parity. 

Take to account that russian economy are not real market economy. Therefore it is very hard to forecast the real capabilities of russian MoD. For instance in the Soviet Union we had very complex finance system, which used non-cash currency (units of account) and common rouble, and they didn't cross; that's why it is impossible to account real soviet military budget.

The US Tank situation was actually a lot straight forward.  The M48 was maintained entirely by "legacy" stocks and located in the National Guard (which is to say, low mileage reserves), when the M1 came out the M60 received a basically "End of life" upgrade (M60A3 TTS) to keep it relevant during the switchover.  

The Soviets, and now the Russians are maintaining several "redundant" types of equipment in that they are broadly equally capable/filling the same role, while also upgrading and keep them as relevant as possible. It's really different in the sense of the US stuff was on basically a turnover (Active component /USAREUR->Lower priority Active->Guard->mothballs->target range), with only fairly modest effort put into the retiring platforms.  

Which rather gets into a sort of tailspin in that the cost of making a unitary, or selecting a primary platform and sticking with it is on paper highly expensive....but keeping several different platforms relevant because a money pit pretty quickly.

The Russian economy is certainly a "real" economy, but it is tightly linked to exports of a very narrow spectrum of goods or raw materials.  This is suffering in many ways, and much of the "wealth" of Russia is in someone else's country, currently locked away under sanctions.  There's no magic money projector hiding in the Kremlin's basement to make that all better.

It's telling that all these new toys that were paraded about were supposed to be in battalion service by now are lacking, and we're seeing more modest service life upgrades instead. 

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4 minutes ago, panzersaurkrautwerfer said:

It's telling that all these new toys that were paraded about were supposed to be in battalion service by now are lacking, and we're seeing more modest service life upgrades instead. 

put another way.  Reality bites

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5 hours ago, Sophist_13 said:

We already have very lots of different platforms - T-72, T-80 and T-90; BMP-2\3, BTR-80\82; BMD-2, BMD-3, BMD-4 and BMD-4M, BTR-D, Rakushka, a multitude of light wheeled vehicles such as Gaz Tigh, UAZ, Kamaz and so on.

Correct. RUS MoD already has an inefficient structure and it's making it worse and worse. What will be the end - is quite clear. Red Square parade units :) No real impact on military capability. Things to watch: sudden switch of budgets from buying new platforms to upgrades to old ones, delays in new platform adoption in numbers, slower production tempo for new toys, programs left orphaned at R&D stage etc.

5 hours ago, Sophist_13 said:

I mean that it would be more reasonable to account military budgets based on purchasing power parity. 

  1. Overall Russian economy is about six times smaller than US by PPP. So a rule of thumb - Russia has monies to support six times smaller military than US. And that's about what happening in reality as estimations for the number of combat ready ground troops in Russian military range from 20 to 50 thousand. Less high tech gear in RUS Army allows you to jump a bit over "six-times-less" rule.
  2. In R&D intensive industries - and weapons production is VERY R&D intensive - the economy is quite the opposite to your notion of "cheap Russian labor". Your R&D costs are so high that lower individual wage of an assembly line worker does not help. What helps is higher production numbers - something that you're lacking with "six times smaller military." So even though technically you're able to produce, the costs would be so high it's prohibitively expensive for your military budget. And that's what's happening in RUS with really new toys rather than upgrades. So if your budget allows you to have a six times smaller military in reality it means you have to do away with a ten times smaller if you want to have a modern high tech military.
  3. You may add to this calculation the fact that US is already over-militarized beyond the level when military spendings start to negatively affect your economy competitiveness. Wise people do not want to repeat others' mistakes :)
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And one more a forecast :)

Background: RUS airlines are now trying to establish a semi-slave labor rules regarding civilian pilots. The reason is civilian pilots have very transferrable skills - they can fly for RUS airlines, Iran, China - whatever. So when rouble fell RUS airline salaries became uncompetitive. And since RUS economy is not about competitiveness and efficiency RUS airlines cannot adapt and increase pilot salaries in local currency to what's available at the international market. So pilots started to move to other countries and that became a state-wide problem by now.

So why the background... In some cases Russian military producers didn't waste the state money as customary in Russia but created rather high tech engineering and production lines and they hired young engineers straight from high schools to man them. Those engineers were young and inexperienced when they started but that's not so anymore. With currency halved and military budgets shrinking these young lads will realize sooner rather than later that designing running gear for a tank in Russia is actually not that different from designing running gear for some heavy construction equipment somewhere else...

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