markus544 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Yes and we could swim the swimmwagon... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarre Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 mmm im tjust wondering witch one go out firs , demo or real product ? because some times im noticet game first than demo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Will the demo contain scenarios not in the full release? IIRC the RT one did. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 (ignoring Schwimmy questions for now simply because ;))mmm im tjust wondering witch one go out firs , demo or real product ? because some times im noticet game first than demo. Demo before release in this case, for sure.Will the demo contain scenarios not in the full release? IIRC the RT one did.They will be from the release, but most likely with some tweaks to them so they aren't 100% the same.Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarre Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 ok thanks steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordhedgwich Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 To get this thread back on track, the demo shouldn't take too long to finalize. 1-2 weeks. Both scenarios will be snowy, unlike the way it is here in northern New England.SteveIs this the first time the demo is out before the game? I bought CMSF, CMBN, and CMFI after they had already been out awhile and the demo for CMRT and CMBS came out a month or so after the game released 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Lehr Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Well I can see that you can not wait for the next "Battle Pack" with some new vehicles and for 55 bucks? Yes I will gladly 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Lehr Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Well I can see that you can not wait for the next "Battle Pack" with some new vehicles and for 55 bucks? Good riddance indeed! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew H. Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 22 hours ago, kohlenklau said: Will the demo have the schwimmwagen? First rule of Schwimmwagen is you don't talk about the Schwimmwagen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Bennett Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Schwimmagen: Sein oder nicht sein, das ist der frage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markus544 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Okay got it no mas schwimmwagen. Was that the only german vehicle that schwimmed?.. The heavy tanks just fell off the bridges into das water 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Early Tigers were outfitted to U-Boot rivers as they recognized bridge crossings might be problematic for such a heavy and wide tank. They gave up on that concept fairly quickly. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 And of course everybody remembers a quantity of Panzers were made to be submersible in anticipation of Operation Sealion. They were eventually used in crossing the Bug River at the outset of Barbarossa. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markus544 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 They had some big ugly half boat half vehicle....german version of a DUCK they were going to use for sea lion....if i'm not mistaken 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilM Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 3 hours ago, markus544 said: They had some big ugly half boat half vehicle....german version of a DUCK they were going to use for sea lion....if i'm not mistaken This one? (Though unsure if it was around in time for Sea Lion ...) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 4 hours ago, Michael Emrys said: And of course everybody remembers a quantity of Panzers were made to be submersible in anticipation of Operation Sealion. They were eventually used in crossing the Bug River at the outset of Barbarossa. Michael This. PzIII's, I think. Pretty successful, as I recall. (Going from memory. Not too many detailed references to their use; you'd think there would be for something as unique as that. First wartime underwater crossing, and in big numbers. An entire battalion?) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rokko Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Kind of a scary thought having to cross the entire English channel in a rinky dink submersible PzIII and probably completely blind at that. Or was the idea to ferry them across for some distance first before depth charging them down to the sea floor? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 5 hours ago, c3k said: PzIII's, I think....An entire battalion?) That's how I recall it too. But it's been 40 years or so since I read that, so...[shrug] Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 4 hours ago, Rokko said: Kind of a scary thought having to cross the entire English channel in a rinky dink submersible PzIII and probably completely blind at that. Or was the idea to ferry them across for some distance first before depth charging them down to the sea floor? I believe the plan was to barge them across and drop them off in relatively shallow water to crawl the rest of the way ashore. ISTR that their schnorkel (actually a flexible tube with a float on top, I think) would only allow immersions to about three meters. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landser Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 (edited) The Germans developed a version of the PzII, Schwimmpanzer or Schwimmkorper, that used attached pontoons for flotation and this was indeed used on the Eastern Front. 38(t)s were also used or at least part of development, and I suspect it's logical that the PzIII would have been as well. [i Edited March 22, 2016 by landser 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markus544 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 On March 22, 2016 at 2:34 AM, PhilM said: This one? (Though unsure if it was around in time for Sea Lion ...) Yeah that baby....quite ugly but appears to sea worthy especially crossing the english channel 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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