Armor topic

[Sublime 180]

Yes thx. Ironivally i wrote that post 3 weeks ago pz and had to close window and get back to hammering at work. I opened the thread and it was all saved in my reply box so i figured what the hell.

[BTR 132]

So, any updates on auto-loader/ready-rack/storage ammo mechanics for Russian and Ukrainian tanks for the next update of CMBS? As far as I understood ammo loadouts have a chance of being corrected, but some more insight from the people in-the-know would be great. 

[BTR 132]

Not that this is particularly relevant to CMBS, but my friend and I went forward and put together a little study on T-55M armoring. While glacis was pretty much a known, the turret BDD was never really examined closely, so this is a proud first :). 

General:

And the general BDD breakdown

 

 

[John Kettler 222]

BTR,

Looks like first rate work. Could they have possibly made the armoring scheme any more complicated? Good grief!

Regards,

John Kettler

[BTR 132]

Yeah, the BDD's are pretty complex, this is what their "fat part" looks like: click. I've yet to convert these numbers into RHAe, that'll be an interesting number crunching exercise. 

[BTR 132]

Updated and refined the glacis breakdown. 

 

[BTR 132]

Out of curiosity I did some mobility tests for Ukrainian and Russian tanks.

Forward full speed 200m:

1. T-90AM 
2. BM Oplot 
3. T-90A - BM Bulat 
4. T-72B3 
5. T-64BV 

Reverse 200m

• All tanks equal (!)

This isn't in line with what these tanks can do in real life and severely handicaps top Ukrainian and Russian tanks with reverse speeds. Forward speed representation also seems a little off to me. I know using theoretical hp/t is not the best solution, but for the sake of KISS principle here is how tanks should line up:

Forward full speed 200m:

1. BM Oplot (hp/t - 23.5)- T-90AM (hp/t - 22.6)*
2. T-90A (hp/t - 20.8)
3. BM Bulat - (hp/t - 18.8)**- T-72B3 (hp/t - 18.2)
4. T-64BV (hp/t - 16.5)  

Reverse 200m

1. BM Oplot - T-90AM (both quoted max 30km/h in reverse with automatic gearboxes)
2. T-90A - T-72B3 - BM Bulat (Russian manuals claim 4.8km/h in reverse, while BM Bulat is an assumption based on horsepower)
3. T-64BV (Manual states 4.2km/h in reverse)

*Assuming 50t. combat weight quoted for P-3 during MoD presentations

**Unless they were re-equipped with 6TD engine variants

Edited July 3, 2016 by BTR

[kinophile 116]

Oplot and 90AM would be 30km but others are about 5 (five!?) km in reverse? 

Is this correct? Not a typo? There's 25km reverse speed difference between the tank generations? 

[BTR 132]

That is correct.