GAZ NZ Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 - snipers of airmobile units except SVD rifles have new VPR-308 barrels. Also special forces sniper teams have big-caliber sniper rifles. Almost all were equipped with 2+ / 3 gen IR/NV sights - Big role in defense of airport played so-called "Zenit-position", situated some north-east from airport - fortified positions of battalion of 156th SAM regiment. Their launchers were took out as early as spring 2014 on new positions. "Zenit", which have strong underground bunkers defends combined detachment "Wild ducks" of Air Forces (servicemen of 156th SAM regiment and volunteers from many other Air Force units). When airport defense in September of 2014 just started, many of 156th regiment guys (radar operators, HQ staff, maintenance personnel) even can't shoot from RPG, so special force conducted brief course of handling with weapon for them. "Wild ducks" established close to late autumn. Later "Zenit" also defended by units of 95th airmobile and 25th airborne brigades. - How enemies could to seize new terminal. Their tank shot out control tower, which already was badly damaged. The tower fell and terminal defenders lost excellent watch position, so they now could see enemy, when they already were very close to their positions. Also to this time enemy seized underground and upper stages of terminal. Enemy used tactic of Chechen assault groups - many teams, heavy armed with RPG-26/RPO-A/ PKM/ SVD attacked with at once salvos from RPG/RPO-A, which destroyed barricades and forced defenders step back in deep of terminal. Finally remained group of "Cyborgs" (about 100 or less men) turned out in trap of big hall. But enemy anyway couldn't to break throw. So, they resorted to cunning - they call to our command and requested cease fire to take out own killed and wounded. But in real in that time they mined upper stage floor and underground ceiling with powerful charges. First explosion break upper stages, but most of "Cyborgs" remained whole. Then through some times horrible explosion from below happened and most of them fell in underground and many was buried under constructions. Just about 20 men could get out from ruins and in dense fog came to own units. Resque groups on MTLB lost in this fog and came directly to enemy positions - all were shot out. Thanks for the info Sounded like a pretty nasty way to go for those guys inside demo charged out Why are they called "Cyborgs exactly"? The sniper rifles - was it the Ukraine who were given these upgrades? to .308? Was that standard issue for them ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameronMcDonald Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) Why are they called "Cyborgs exactly"? From what I've read, the reasoning was that they were outnumbered, outgunned, soaked up tonnes of punishment and still managed to fight back, somewhat akin to... Edited May 25, 2015 by CameronMcDonald 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Great information on the battle Haiduk. Thank you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) The sniper rifles - was it the Ukraine who were given these upgrades? Here info about VPR-308/338. This rifle produces in Kyiv "Mayak" factory and designed on base of Z-008 sniper rifle for sport and hunting of "Zbroyar" company, also Ukrainian: http://www.mayak.com.ua/en/catalogue/vpr-338 Also uses sniper rifles MZ-15MARK (slightly changed AR-15) of "Mayak"+"Zbroyar" production (but it too low) and Fort-301 (licensed Israeli "Galatz"), but it mostly go in National Guard. 3rd special forces regiment have about dozen or more Howa and Barret rifles, and of course SVD. Enemy used against us SVD, VSS Vintorez, ASVK, and turned in sniper rifles old WWII times PTRD. Why are they called "Cyborgs exactly"? First this name used one of separatist fighter. After another failed assault he wrote of the nature of: "We attacking more and more, but can't defeat them, they are as if a kind of cyborgs!" Our media spread this comment and so this name adhered to airport defenders. In joke UKR civil volunteer even produced special chevron "Cyborg" for soldiers in airport: Add to this - in last months of defense, when supply lines were almost cut off, they situated in terminals in the night w/o light and hot food- enemy snipers immediately shot even smallest flare of light. When frosts hit, spotters in control tower were forced to stay on positions several days on temperature -29 C degree (-20 F) and wind, which blew through riddle tower. They can't sleep, all were badly chilled. Soldiers in terminals often drink a water diluted with some diesel - else its frozen and was no way to melt its - enemy shot on fire. Great information on the battle Haiduk. This very short describing of some features, full story of defending will take several pages. When developers will define with data of scenario (1st, 2nd, 3rd or final assault) I try to tell more detail in context of chosen time period. Edited May 25, 2015 by Haiduk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake_eye Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 Fantastic description of the battle ground Haiduk. However we have to keep in mind that to simulate these accounts precisely will be next to impossible in the actual CMBS. But to use some of these and put them in a scenario allowing a good playability will be possible. My intent at this time, is to make two scenarios. One with the Ukrainians repulsing the separatists and another one involving the capture of the airport by Nato against the Russians. That will make two different tactical battles. The tactical features of the airport grounds as described by Haiduk will fit particularly well in these two scenarios, providing the players with two different ways to fight. At one time the control tower will have to be reduced to rubbles, precluding any FOO observatory, only few highground spot will remain and these will be an obvious objective for both adversaries 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 capture of the airport by Nato against the Russians. That will make two different tactical battles. If take a real scenario "what if ?", now airport territory is almost neutral. Terminals destroyed for such level, that absolutely unsuitable for defense. Separatists appeared there just for shooting at our positions and their snipers are firing form there. Main enemy positions now in Vesele, especially in nunnery area, technical facilities of airport, close to city limit and Spartak - outskirt settlement of Donetsk, turned in heavy fortified strongpoint. So, if NATO forces will have objectives to capture airport and neighbor territories, they need to destroy heavy fortified enemy positions in pointed settlements, from where separatists can conduct fire control of almost open territory to the north-west of airport. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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