Icecold Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Apparently this IFV is in production now. Will probably be in significant numbers by 2017. Its an Airborne IFV. The Russian BMD-4 Infantry Fighting Vehicle entered service in 2005 in limited production numbers and upgrading of BMD-3’s. The vehicle has seen the addition of a new 2A70 100mm main gun which is coaxial mounted with an improved 30mm auto cannon, the 2A72. The new main gun fires the 9M117 Bastion laser-guided anti-tank missiles, which has an effective range of 5.5km and can be loaded via the guns autoloader. This is all housed in a new turret, with a new Fire control System. Its equipped with a further coaxial 7.62mm. These weapons are the same used on the BMP-3. The light aluminium armour, which is rated for heavy MG & artillery splinters, uses a new aluminium material. The vehicle also has an NBC protection and 3 smoke grenade launchers either side of the main guns on the turret. The vehicle uses the 2V-60-2 diesel engine, which develops 450hp. The vehicle is also fully amphibious and can fire the main 100mm main gun whilst in water (pending weather conditions). The vehicle uses a 3 man crew, driver, gunner & commander. It carries 5 fully equipped airborne troops and the vehicle can be air deployed with crew and troops inside. The most recent update is the BMD-4M (Modernised), which in short is an attempt to integrate the automotive components of the BMP-3 in order to reduce operational and manufacturing costs. The crew have reduced to 2 and an increase of airborne troops to 6. A new FCS has also been added. It’s believed that this model is now in production. This vid has a nice shot of the autoloading system. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 icecold, A most interesting vid, in which I particularly appreciate seeing the tactical displays. Since I see an apparent CITV on the turret roof, I confess myself baffled by your statement the crew has been reduced to two. There is no point having a CITV if the komandir is both TC and gunner. If there is a TC and a gunner, then who's driving? Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikalugin Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 The normal crew is 3 men strong, vehicle commander could dismount to command the infantry squad. Note, with Bahcha-U module it has a capability to fire NLOS against targets provided by network centric command system. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 ikalugin, Thanks for the explanation! The NLOS capability is rather shocking. Do you happen to know what minimum range is for NLOS? I ask this because it's possible the maps may be large enough to permit such use, though naturally such support fires would be limited by the lack of adjustable charges. If the game code supports NLOS, then this could, I believe, have significant impact on the game. Does the BMP-3 have the same ability. If not, is it expected in the CMBS timeframe? Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieme(ITA) Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I am pretty sure the entire BMD family (maybe even the old 1), will come in VDV expansion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagler Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Old 1 is still in use with Ukrop VDV so its highly likely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L0ckAndL0ad Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 AFAIK there's no BMD-4 vehicles actually in service. Only the new BMD-4Ms, that are just being built. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieme(ITA) Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 (edited) Well, for CMBS 2017(+) time frame is a nice fit. Besides, we know enough about it and there are plenty of pictures. I really don't see any reason not to inlcude it in the VDV expansion, it will be like a "mini BMP-3". Edited March 26, 2015 by Kieme(ITA) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L0ckAndL0ad Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Yes, BMD-4M is said to have 80% parts commonality with BMP-3. And I like it very much, it looks awesome with side armor plates on. And it is actually the only IFV in Russian service currently that has thermals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexey K Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 What about armour protection? BMD-1 to 3 is quite thin skinned vehicle due to wheight restrictions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L0ckAndL0ad Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 What about armour protection? BMD-1 to 3 is quite thin skinned vehicle due to wheight restrictions. I did not study VDV related info as much as I did on Ground Forces, but I'd say that the majority of vehicles in VDV are BMD-2 and BTR-D. BMD-2M upgrades are pending, within 2017 limits. BMD-4M is just getting into service, with small number of vehicles from mass production series that were delivered recently. Regarding BMD-4M: http://community.battlefront.com/topic/118616-question-about-vdv/?p=1590758 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikalugin Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Direct shot range is aeround 500 I think, maximum elevation is +60 degress i think. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 AFAIK there's no BMD-4 vehicles actually in service. Only the new BMD-4Ms, that are just being built. I think there are some in service, like 20-60, but production was abandoned pending BMD-4M. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L0ckAndL0ad Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I think there are some in service, like 20-60, but production was abandoned pending BMD-4M. The guy here says there are no BMD-3s and BMD-4s in service. Only in training centers. http://otvaga2004.mybb.ru/viewtopic.php?id=853&p=29#p523542 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 (edited) Were they withdrawn from units at some point? I also swear I saw video of a BMD-4 with one of the airborne units that deployed to Ukraine border. Edited March 26, 2015 by akd 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperial Grunt Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I hope VDV vehicles in the module have that camouflage pattern. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieme(ITA) Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I don't know about you, but the BMD-2 is the vehicle everybody would like to see in their garage, perfect fit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L0ckAndL0ad Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 (edited) Were they withdrawn from units at some point? This photo is from 2006 (or 2007). Experimental testing Dubrovichi range, Ryazan. http://btvt.narod.ru/5/vdv2007/vdv2007.htm Edited March 26, 2015 by L0ckAndL0ad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xIGuNDoCIx Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I hope VDV vehicles in the module have that camouflage pattern. You know Kieme will be on it! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTR Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Damn, this cammo thing.... . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) Did someone say BMD-4M? Anyone up for airborne drop and river assault? Sprut free of charge. YT served this up after my Armata vid delvings. Nearby I found a doc on the BMD-3 and BMD-4. It begins with footage from Afghanistan! I don't speak Russian, yet I came away very happy I watched the vid immediately below. Much to see and learn here.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwk0MbaF2f0&spfreload=10 ikalugin, I don't follow what you said. Are you telling me the BMD-4 can conduct Indirect fire missions as close as 500 meters away from itself? If so, I'd very much love to know how this is possible, considering maximum elevation is only 60 degrees. I doubt even the equivalent of charge 0 for an equivalent performance howitzer would make such a short distance possible. Regards, John Kettler Edited March 28, 2015 by John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikalugin Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Direct shot = range at which you could directly fire at the enemy. Everything above this would require barrel elevation, hence implying NLOS shots above low obstacles. The gun could be elevated to 60 degrees, meaning that at longer ranges it could be used as a mortar, this is munition dependent (older munition with 4km range and newer with 7km range would give you different flight profiles to play around). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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