slysniper Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Man, last night I was bored so I sat and watched one of ChrisND demos of the game he posted on YouTube. It was driving me crazy, I just cannot wait to get my hands on the game. So today I finally ordered it, knowing it will be out soon (I have always managed to preorder and get the game within two weeks, Pretty good timing in the past. Hope it works again.) Anyway, I have never been so excited for one of their games. Which seems funny to me since I have not even purchased their other modern stuff. Tried the demo's, somewhat liked them but just hated the match ups. Where as now I just cannot wait to get the units and start testing different tactics as to how to overcome some of the high tech stuff. It also just reminds me how glad I am I did not see action while I was serving in the service. Because now days if you are on the wrong end of a firefight, it is over before you even know what is happening. Being spotted by the enemy first normally means death or wounded with little chance of striking back. Just the facts of the modern battlefield and the game portrays it well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocal Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 (edited) It also just reminds me how glad I am I did not see action while I was serving in the service. Because now days if you are on the wrong end of a firefight, it is over before you even know what is happening. Being spotted by the enemy first normally means death or wounded with little chance of striking back. Just the facts of the modern battlefield and the game portrays it well. You'd actually be surprised how lethal stuff isn't IRL.You'd probably be sent into a rage if you saw a Abrams eat four RPG-29 rockets, all of which penetrate, and none of which actually do anything to the tank or if you dropped a 500lbs. bomb on a machine gun position and had the gun come right back up or if you sent a Hellfire into a loaded BTR and saw all the occupants bail out unharmed. But that kinda stuff stuff happens regularly on the battlefield, even with modern weapons. Edited January 17, 2015 by Apocal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slysniper Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 You'd actually be surprised how lethal stuff isn't IRL.You'd probably be sent into a rage if you saw a Abrams eat four RPG-29 rockets, all of which penetrate, and none of which actually do anything to the tank or if you dropped a 500lbs. bomb on a machine gun position and had the gun come right back up or if you sent a Hellfire into a loaded BTR and saw all the occupants bail out unharmed. But that kinda stuff stuff happens regularly on the battlefield, even with modern weapons. True But Not everyone is riding around in a Abram Or wearing a Rabbit foot that actually works. I was in the infantry and then a Sniper. Neither of which provided protection other than the Shirt I was wearing (no body armor that did much in my day 80-87). So I see it from a grunts point of view. And on the modern battlefield it does not look pleasant if caught on the wrong side of an engagement. That is all I am saying. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahger Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Funny, that is exactly how I have spent my precious leisure time these last two evenings (watching ChrisND's videos). I, too am more excited about this game than I expected to be. I prefer modern-era tactical combat but I am a chronic early-adopter, which was NOT the best way to appreciate Shock Force, which took longer to sort itself out than I had time. BS looks like it is built on what is now a very evolved engine and I am really impressed by the apparent quality of the tac-AI. Above all, it is clear from ChrisND's videos that the game really rewards real-life maneuver tactics; it seems to me to be much more of a sim and less of a game than any other iteration of the series that I have played. Have you seen ChrisND's playthrough of the Green Line scenario? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan/california Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 No final candidate announcement implies we are a week out at best. This is on the hopeful assumption that they don't hit a bug in the installer and so on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slysniper Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 No, did not watch that one. But you are right in that maneuver seems to be even more important now than in the older period games. But I have also learned over the years of playing these games. Good maneuvering can be the winning factor. I use to just maneuver enough for create what I thought was fire power advantages. Now I move much more in my battles and I see many benefits for doing it. Like I am in a h2h match right now where I shifted my whole battle group to the right and then started pushing up the right flank, wanting to sell that I was committing everything there. Then when the defender shifted. I sent my cover fire units back to the left flank and proceeded to push up both sides. Just watching him shift, expose what units he has and then position my forces to try and prevent or at least shoot at units he now needs to shift back is worth the effort for all my maneuvering 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 If you are talking about our game I don't have much to shift anywhere. Those big guns eat every thing they can see. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slysniper Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 If you are talking about our game I don't have much to shift anywhere. Those big guns eat every thing they can see. Stop your spying and go do a turn so I can hit you some more with them big guns. And Yes, it is that game 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vet 0369 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 I watched the second and third parts of the first mission, U.S. campaign and all of the Phase Line Green last night. The Russians popping up in the fields, woods, and such where they weren't expected, and the unanticipated Russian reinforcements really did make for a "nail-biter." As I watched the play, I was mentally evaluating the possible effects of the moves on the results. I play mainly H2H, so I think I "fear" potential SNAFUs much more then I did when I used to play just the AI. The anticipation for CM;BS is horrible, but I have CMBN (with Commonwealth and Market Garden), CMFI (with GL), CMRT, and the entire CMSF series to keep me busy. It's amazing how immersed I can get in any of those games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Stop your spying and go do a turn so I can hit you some more with them big guns. And Yes, it is that game LOL, yeah I am behind. In my defense what little free time I had today I spent testing. The real problem is that the new forum SW actually works well from my phone so I can answer posts even when I have no time to play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agusto Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 The real problem is that the new forum SW actually works well from my phone so I can answer posts even when I have no time to play. Ha, and i thought i am the only posting while i should be working . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slysniper Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 LOL, yeah I am behind. In my defense what little free time I had today I spent testing. The real problem is that the new forum SW actually works well from my phone so I can answer posts even when I have no time to play. Oh, rub it in why don't you. You call it testing, I call it learning the skills to beat me in the new game As for posting, note that I have not done it much lately. Because most of the time it was from work when I had slow periods. Have not been doing that for awhile now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 It's good to be busy:-) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnersman Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Well, Steve is posting on the forums regularly, now. That is always a good sign. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocal Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 True But Not everyone is riding around in a Abram Or wearing a Rabbit foot that actually works. I was in the infantry and then a Sniper. Neither of which provided protection other than the Shirt I was wearing (no body armor that did much in my day 80-87). So I see it from a grunts point of view. And on the modern battlefield it does not look pleasant if caught on the wrong side of an engagement. That is all I am saying. Even guys stopping bullets with manjammies were surviving 500lbs. bombs landing within 10 meters and Hellfires slamming next to their feet while they ran. Not usually, but it apparently happens enough to be infuriating. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slysniper Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 Even guys stopping bullets with manjammies were surviving 500lbs. bombs landing within 10 meters and Hellfires slamming next to their feet while they ran. Not usually, but it apparently happens enough to be infuriating. Yes, it happens and it would seem impossible at times, but that is part of it. Of course some of them guys were so high on drugs, that they did not know better that they were dying and bleeding out. Almost like shooting a deer, you know it is going to kill them but the question is how far can they get before they bleed out. That was one reason the M16 had such a bad rep. (No knock down power) I have heard of many cases how shot enemy soldiers would keep assaulting even after major hits. But again they normally were doped out of their minds anyway. But that fact still is, they were not going home to their shacks the next day. If you think it is all that safe, go spend a day out there and let me know how it goes with all these none lethal modern weapons out there. To convince my Sons that they really did not want to be a soldier like their dad, We play a simple game, Pick a soldier to represent you in any CM battle. Lets keep track of what happens to him and how things go. Even if you cheat and try to take extra good care of him (which we had some house rules to help prevent that) there was many a bad day. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Pick a soldier to represent you in any CM battle. Lets keep track of what happens to him and how things go. Even if you cheat and try to take extra good care of him (which we had some house rules to help prevent that) there was many a bad day. Nice! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slysniper Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 So today I finally ordered it, knowing it will be out soon (I have always managed to preorder and get the game within two weeks, Pretty good timing in the past. Hope it works again.) Boy, was that close. i thought it was not looking good to get it this week 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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