4th Bn 66th Reg Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Can someone explain to me how this DE works now? Kinda of important to know in order to stop the axis from getting a carrier, destroyer, and a cruiser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Just hinder any land unit on debarking that Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy131313 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 A ship in the port will get the ships, but you need to land to get the gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th Bn 66th Reg Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 Seems to me that the allies can just give the port and gold to the US. That way they get at least 125 MPPs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy131313 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 If I remember correctly the Germans get the first option to go for the gold and ships. If they decline then the UK has the option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strategiclayabout Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 - Yes Germans get forst chance though there is a catch because the port starts at 0 and Axis units staying on the island will rise USA mobilization % each turn. - So once you get the gold most players will disband the unit there. That's also why they use small units (mostly GAR) to grab the gold: not a big loss when disbanding in low supply. - You have the same problem when landing as Allies if the port starts at 0 supply: it will raise Vichy Axis leaning A LOT. So keep an eye on that if you don't want to give Vichy for free to Axis. * - About how to avoid it:the only way is to destroy axis transports before they reach the port. If they reach the port you'll need a carrier to sink them before they land and grab the gold. - In my ongoing ladder game vs Isno (Axis): he naval transported 2 italian GAR from East Africa to Dutch Guyana (he delayed the conquest of Holland to get a working port at supply 5). - I sunk one of the GAR but the other was one turn away from Fort-de-France. Then he delayed the Fall of Paris to get Vichy/gold event at the best time. Had three cruisers nearby but couldn't stop the transport as he used Kriegsmarine to scout the way. - I sunk the carrier when it popped and damaged some Kriegsmarine units but the gold was lost so you definitely need a naval group with a carrier if you want to stop the nazi counterpart of Kelly's Heroes . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th Bn 66th Reg Posted April 8, 2014 Author Share Posted April 8, 2014 Can you put an allied transport in the port before France surrenders? Seems like that would nix any axis attempt to get the ships or gold. Just to be clear, the axis or allies put a fleet unit in the port they get the ships. If they land a unit on the island they get the gold. Can you get both? You cannot disembark a unit until it gets to 5 supply? Did he wait 5 turns after France fell to put a unit on the island? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy131313 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 You can receive both. A transport will in the port will trigger the ships, and when he unloads you can get the gold. Then disband the troop to avoid waiting for supply and upsetting USA. Also putting an allied ship in port won't work. It's part of Vichy France and Vichy kicks all allied units out of it's territory when it is established. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th Bn 66th Reg Posted April 9, 2014 Author Share Posted April 9, 2014 Doesn't the axis lose plunder for every turn that France doesn't fall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill101 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 No, the plunder mechanism isn't affected by the time when a country surrenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhughes41 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 If France is fully conquered (no Vichy) then does this decision never occur? That is the aircraft carrier and cruiser vaporize and never become available to the Axis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isnogud Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 That seems to be the case. I took London before Paris so the UK does not get the decision not to recognize Vichy- In that case the Fort de France event did also not occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackharry Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Is it also the case that this decision never occurs if the UK recognises Vichy and there is no Free French? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isnogud Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Yes but in this case Germany has the change to get the Straßburg battleship with the option to repair it or to scrap it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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