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For my first scenario I want to be inspired by the battle of Moghilev.

But I do not find cards(maps) on the locality.

Any similar documentation interests me as long as the card(map) is precise to reconstitute the battle most faithfully possible.

I read the following work to be inspired

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But unfortunately no precise cards(maps).

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There's not a great deal in English beyond what you find in books like the Soviet General Staff study on Bagration, or other general Bagration books (Soviet Blitzkrieg 1944 for example). I assume the situation isn much the same in French for the same reason: any detailed information available is going to be in Russian.

The best way to get information that I've found is to search for Russian sites and translate them with google translate and hope that something readable comes out. Search for "могилев 1944" (google images is also good to search since you can see any interesting maps pretty quickly). Unfortunately one of the most informative sites (mogilevhistory.narod.ru/1944) is flagged as being a source of malicious code at the moment, so I don't know when that will be back to normal. Last time I visited it it showed which direction various Soviet units attacked the city from, which I've kept a copy of:

mogilev444.jpg~original

сд is a Soviet rifle division, сп is a Soviet rifle regiment (IIRC). I don't have my russian military abbreviation charts handy, but I'm fairly sure the 13th something and 23rd something west of the city are some combination of tank brigades (with T-34s) and assault gun regiments.

http://masheka.by/history_mogilev/444-osvobozhdenie-mogileva-kratkaya-hronika-sobytiy.html is also pretty good (if you speak russian or can live with google translate).

The 1:25000 map of the area (N-36-73-B) that fernando linked is the best one I've found, although a better quality downloadable version can be found at http://greif.uni-greifswald.de/geogreif/geogreif-content/upload/rs/N-36-73-B.jpg

An English language source for the German side is "Defense of Mogilev by the 12th Infantry Division ", which is an article in "ART OF WAR SYMPOSIUM; From the Dnepr to the Vistula: Soviet offensive operations, November 1943 - August 1944 " (pages 359-384) but I've not managed to find a copy of that anywhere yet; it isn't available online as far as I know, and only big national archive libraries (or military libraries) are likely to have a copy.

http://www.wwii-photos-maps.com/aerialmiscellaneous/slides/Mogilev%204.html is a German aerial reconnaisance photo of the city from July 1944. (wwii-photos-maps has I think 4 recon photos that turn up for Mogilev, but some of them are for Mogilev-Podolsk which is a different place entirely). The only other relevant one is http://www.wwii-photos-maps.com/aerialmiscellaneous/slides/Mogliev-1.html which is undated but gives enough detail to pick out every road and most buildings in the city.

I think I have some more information around somewhere, but can't find it at the moment. Hope this helps.

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Thank you very much for your help. I am going to conceive(design) a big scenario taking place in town.

I conceived(designed) a big scenario named(appointed) intensive Villers-Bocage, fight grantis under cmbn.

I am going to propose it in download

I am going to try to make as well for the eastern front

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There's not a great deal in English beyond what you find in books like the Soviet General Staff study on Bagration, or other general Bagration books (Soviet Blitzkrieg 1944 for example). I assume the situation isn much the same in French for the same reason: any detailed information available is going to be in Russian.

The best way to get information that I've found is to search for Russian sites and translate them with google translate and hope that something readable comes out. Search for "могилев 1944" (google images is also good to search since you can see any interesting maps pretty quickly). Unfortunately one of the most informative sites (mogilevhistory.narod.ru/1944) is flagged as being a source of malicious code at the moment, so I don't know when that will be back to normal. Last time I visited it it showed which direction various Soviet units attacked the city from, which I've kept a copy of:

mogilev444.jpg~original

сд is a Soviet rifle division, сп is a Soviet rifle regiment (IIRC). I don't have my russian military abbreviation charts handy, but I'm fairly sure the 13th something and 23rd something west of the city are some combination of tank brigades (with T-34s) and assault gun regiments.

http://masheka.by/history_mogilev/444-osvobozhdenie-mogileva-kratkaya-hronika-sobytiy.html is also pretty good (if you speak russian or can live with google translate).

The 1:25000 map of the area (N-36-73-B) that fernando linked is the best one I've found, although a better quality downloadable version can be found at http://greif.uni-greifswald.de/geogreif/geogreif-content/upload/rs/N-36-73-B.jpg

An English language source for the German side is "Defense of Mogilev by the 12th Infantry Division ", which is an article in "ART OF WAR SYMPOSIUM; From the Dnepr to the Vistula: Soviet offensive operations, November 1943 - August 1944 " (pages 359-384) but I've not managed to find a copy of that anywhere yet; it isn't available online as far as I know, and only big national archive libraries (or military libraries) are likely to have a copy.

http://www.wwii-photos-maps.com/aerialmiscellaneous/slides/Mogilev%204.html is a German aerial reconnaisance photo of the city from July 1944. (wwii-photos-maps has I think 4 recon photos that turn up for Mogilev, but some of them are for Mogilev-Podolsk which is a different place entirely). The only other relevant one is http://www.wwii-photos-maps.com/aerialmiscellaneous/slides/Mogliev-1.html which is undated but gives enough detail to pick out every road and most buildings in the city.

I think I have some more information around somewhere, but can't find it at the moment. Hope this helps.

Thank you very much for this documentation, she will be very precious to me :);)

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wespe001,

Soviet Topographic Maps has lots of goodies.

TM 30-548 Soviet Topographic Map Symbols (that topic and more) should prove most useful in your Moghilev military map research.

http://cluster3.lib.berkeley.edu/EART/pdf/soviet.pdf

Soviet military map citation for Moghilev. 1:50,000 You want sheet N36

http://cluster3.lib.berkeley.edu/EART/maps/g7090s50s6_index.gif

Found item at

http://www-sul.stanford.edu/depts/branner/collections/sovietmil.html

There's also some noteworthy period Soviet operational stuff under 2nd Byelorussian Front at Armchair General under the header "Maps 1944 (Western Direction)." Will take you right to it. Maps cover 49th Army CO's plan and subsequent actions for the period June 19-28.

Regards,

John Kettler

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