Bil Hardenberger Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 Bil - you didn't tell me you were AAR'ing this! After I told you ol' "Teacher" took me to the schoolhouse on it!. Scott you can't expect me to hold your hand through the forums now can you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bil Hardenberger Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 The armor game can turn so quickly. Bad luck having your Tigers matched against the Firefly. Imagine if they'd been over on the other side? Yeah, hindsight, etc. Obviously, you need to SLOW a sufficiently dedicated tank-hunter team across the map to engage the enemy's tanks. 4 PF should do... Wow Ken. That is pretty tame advice coming from You. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baneman Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Wow Ken. That is pretty tame advice coming from You. I can't read it yet, but with him posting an AAR of MacIsle's map as the Allies, maybe he got his ass kicked, y'know, attacking... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfhand Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I can't read it yet, but with him posting an AAR of MacIsle's map as the Allies, maybe he got his ass kicked, y'know, attacking... Sadly not the case... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bil Hardenberger Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share Posted June 12, 2013 The Tenth Minute Artillery started to fall on the objective this turn.. unfortunately it was off target slightly. I pushed one of my Pz-IVs forward on the center road.. they got a quick spot, opened fire... and missed... ...seconds later the Pz-IV was hit and destroyed... damn. I didn't want to do this, especially this early but I think I need some Tigers... I am sending a section forward, including Wittmann (the foremost Tiger). Maybe this will help me break Warren's line.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bil Hardenberger Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share Posted June 12, 2013 (edited) Let's play a little game... answer the following question, you will learn the result as the battle unfolds:How many Tigers (other than the first two) will I lose in this scenario? A) None B ) Two C) Four D) All Five Edited January 3, 2015 by Bil Hardenberger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bil Hardenberger Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share Posted June 12, 2013 Don't miss turn 10 on the previous page... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Ration Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 four! that Firefly is looking good! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bil Hardenberger Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share Posted June 12, 2013 The Fourteenth Minute Skipping several turns as they were just filled with tank sniping that had no effect and maneuver... in this turn one of the three Jpz-IV's I have on the center road fires on a Sherman V in the treeline.. Another penetration.. however again this tank seems fine as it fired back (and thankfully missed), then started to reverse out of the line. This is an all too common sight.. a Sherman in a very good position sniping at my armor. They are getting several hits, but my Jpz's seem to be shrugging them off.. I'm glad none of these are the Firefly... In this view you can see that Warren has his Sherman Platoon lined up very neatly... his Firefly is way out on the left end of this platoon.. which is good for me as my advance should be mostly obscured from its view. My Tigers are still making their way forward. Note that there are a couple more contacts on the left end of Warren's line... perhaps there is a second tank platoon setup behind this one? Well I expected that, however these appear to be keeping an eye on the main road where I lost my first two Tigers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bil Hardenberger Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share Posted June 12, 2013 four! that Firefly is looking good! Thanks for playing Jack, you are on the board for guessing four. Anybody else? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George MC Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Thanks for playing Jack, you are on the board for guessing four. Anybody else? Well I've managed successfully - against the AI to lose all the Tigers. However I reckon your tactical nounce is better than mine so I'll say two These Fireflies are deadly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnzrldr Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I'm in for three. What's the buy in? Like George above, I managed to lose all of mine, but hey, you have the experience so lets see how it goes. The real question is, "does Wittman survive?" and the caveat, "in a functional Tiger or not?" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bil Hardenberger Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share Posted June 12, 2013 Read the instruction pnzrldr, I don't think three was one of the options. The real question is, "does Wittman survive?" and the caveat, "in a functional Tiger or not?" Good questions... how patient are you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baneman Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I'm going with (D) - All five ! and then you'll pull off a win anyway ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bil Hardenberger Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share Posted June 12, 2013 So far we have: Guesses for how many of the remaining 5 Tigers will be lost: ---Jack Ration - 4 ---George MC - 2 ---pnzrldr - 3 ---Baneman - 5 Isn't this fun? One of these options is correct: A) None Two C) Four D) All Five 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I feel lucky A) None 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnzrldr Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Ok, fine. I'll jump in with George and say two, but I still say that Wittman surviving IN HIS TIGER is the real mark of success. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bil Hardenberger Posted June 13, 2013 Author Share Posted June 13, 2013 The Fifteenth Minute This turn opens with one of my Jpz's exchanging shots with a Sherman V.. the difference was that mine did some damage. Top image, the first shot to hit (bounced, did not penetrate) caused Warren's tank to button and withdraw off the line. Bottom image, my second hit got a partial penetration, but didn't kill this tank. It must be hurting though. Also on the line another Sherman was hit and penetrated by the other Jpz on the center road. This time it was knocked out. So the situation on this sector is starting to change dramatically. German Situation You can see that my Tigers are now in position, one is engaging a Sherman on Warren's line.. all appear to be masked from Warren's Firefly. The best way to combat those things is to not let them see you. I want Warren to have to reposition that Firefly in order to get a good firing solution.. that should make him vulnerable. Note the two-tank Jpz team on the center road.. these are the tanks doing most of the damage right now. The third Jpz has driven off the road in reaction to several hits, the Pz-IVs are being kept well back in a supporting role for now, off screen at the bottom a second Pz-IV is moving up behind the Tigers. British Situation Not so rosy from the British perspective... Warren has now lost the center of his line.. one tank destroyed and two possibly wounded and off the line. That leaves him with one tank on the extreme right (Sherman V) and one on his extreme left (Firefly). With my Tigers coming on line I think it's time he evacuated this position and moved to his second line. My goal is to stop him from extricating himself... best case would be his entire tank platoon smoking behind those trees. Hopefully he left it too long to be able to get them away. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bil Hardenberger Posted June 13, 2013 Author Share Posted June 13, 2013 The latest talley: Guesses for how many of the remaining 5 Tigers will be lost: ---Jack Ration - 4 ---George MC - 2 ---pnzrldr - 2 ---Baneman - All 5 ---Buzz - None One of these options is correct: A) None Two C) Four D) All Five 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seedorf81 Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 All five I fear.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 I'll bite C) Four I have had bad luck with those things. Just for clarity, how do gun hits and mobility kills fit into the betting? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bil Hardenberger Posted June 13, 2013 Author Share Posted June 13, 2013 Thanks guys I'll add your input to the Tiger Kill Sweepstakes with the next update. Steve, the Tiger must be knocked out or destroyed to count. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizou Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Bil being Bil I wouldent be surprised if he manages to keep the rest of the Tigers ok. But Im gonna go with 2 more KO, those fire flys are deadly! And thanks for doing this Bil, your AARs are always a good read! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethaface Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Another vote for 'none', but I guess some of your Jpz or Pz IV's will fail to see the Victory screen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noob Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 one....... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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